How do you bid the hand after this start?
Bid this
#2
Posted 2014-April-10, 21:29
4C 4H
5C ?
#4
Posted 2014-April-10, 23:13
I am not forced to bid here---the 4c bid has to be an attempt to show
a very radical distribution. My hand seems so good but there is too much
chance of a misfit after this bidding so the 4c bid adequately prepares
for a 5c bid in case p bids 4h (if their heart suit is that good they
can bid 5h and they wont be disappointed with my aces).
I have some sympathy for 5c bidders but that quite possibly preempts us
out of slam for really no good reason. The hand does not have to be a misfit
it just sounds like it could be (I know I KNOW from seeing the hands it is
but just from the bidding?).
#5
Posted 2014-April-11, 03:53
gszes, on 2014-April-10, 23:13, said:
I am not forced to bid here---the 4c bid has to be an attempt to show
a very radical distribution. My hand seems so good but there is too much
chance of a misfit after this bidding so the 4c bid adequately prepares
for a 5c bid in case p bids 4h (if their heart suit is that good they
can bid 5h and they wont be disappointed with my aces).
I have some sympathy for 5c bidders but that quite possibly preempts us
out of slam for really no good reason. The hand does not have to be a misfit
it just sounds like it could be (I know I KNOW from seeing the hands it is
but just from the bidding?).
Misfit? Partner has the KQ and K of my 6 card suits or heven's sake. I would always like partners to have "misfits" like this.
#6
Posted 2014-April-11, 06:34
5♣-6♦
I don't think i can stop before slam with S hand holding xxx ♠ and KQ K values in his suits when he showed big shape.
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#8
Posted 2014-April-11, 06:52
Cyberyeti, on 2014-April-11, 06:47, said:
No, it is not horrible. I am sure we all played slams some of which makes this one look "cold"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#9
Posted 2014-April-11, 07:17
6♦ is good, since a club lead is unlikely. 7♦ is not that bad either, since 6♦ will take 13 a lot of the time it makes anyway. I assume it is best to play on hearts after a nonclub lead.
#11
Posted 2014-April-11, 08:36
MrAce, on 2014-April-11, 06:34, said:
5♣-
I am interested (on a theoretical level) if everyone plays 5NT the same way on this auction after 5♣.
#12
Posted 2014-April-11, 09:13
the hog, on 2014-April-11, 03:53, said:
Curious statement my bidding assumes we cannot see each others hands. A bidding question
is not about how to bid when one can see both hands but how one would bid in real life:))))))
#13
Posted 2014-April-11, 09:15
MrAce, on 2014-April-11, 06:34, said:
5♣(Passing 4H would be tempting, but....)-6♦(Yeh, Pass would really be wimpy)
I don't think i can stop before slam with S hand holding xxx ♠ and KQ K values in his suits when he showed big shape.
Agree with Timo, But just had to put words in his mouth.
#14
Posted 2014-April-11, 11:09
#15
Posted 2014-April-11, 18:44
gszes, on 2014-April-11, 09:13, said:
is not about how to bid when one can see both hands but how one would bid in real life:))))))
When my pd bid C and D strongly and I hold K KQ, I do not regard the hand as a misfit.It appears you do.
#16
Posted 2014-April-12, 05:16
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"
"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
#18
Posted 2014-April-12, 11:05
whereagles, on 2014-April-11, 11:09, said:
Bidding 5C, combined with Partner's tools of observation, should get it done. I agree with Fluffy that bidding 5C is not clear; but if I did that, Pard would be the one doing the evaluating.
#19
Posted 2014-April-12, 14:55