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#41 User is offline   Vampyr 

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Posted 2016-February-06, 18:03

 gordontd, on 2016-February-06, 01:59, said:

It's a good job you aren't easily annoyed by unimportant matters, Stefanie!

OK, tonight's guy did not know how to pronounce "wildebeest", and he said it a lot. This, I think, would grate on the ears of the most easy-going viewer.

EDIT: I do sympathise with people who have never heard a word pronounced, and say things like epi-tome and can-apes. I used to do this myself as a kid, because I read a lot, usually adult (in the sense of grown people!) material. But this was an animal that was featured in the show; and as it was recorded, surely someone ought to have noticed.
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Posted 2016-February-07, 06:17

I get this when I watch football on UK TV. Hearing every few seconds about the BVB superstar Ray-oos (Reus) taking on the (ex) ManU defender Oh-She-uh (O'Shea) is at a minimum distracting.
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Posted 2016-February-07, 08:12

Hyperbole pronounced hyper-bowl is another common one. It always irritates me that the people who read the sports news on the radio can't pronounce surnames in common European languages.
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Posted 2016-February-07, 08:56

 Cyberyeti, on 2016-February-07, 08:12, said:

Hyperbole pronounced hyper-bowl is another common one. It always irritates me that the people who read the sports news on the radio can't pronounce surnames in common European languages.


So we have hyperbole at the super bowl? This one I had not heard.

When I was young I was telling someone about seeing the movie of Richard III. I said this guy Lawrence Olivier, (Olivier pronounced as in Oliver Twist) did a really good job. As I recall, the"someone" was a girl I was thinking of asking out. Oh well.
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Posted 2016-February-08, 07:48

 barmar, on 2016-February-04, 11:08, said:

The fact that "full" loses an "l" when it gets turned into a suffix is just totally weird. I have sympathy for the poor spellers who have trouble remembering this.

This made me curious - where does the abnormality come from?

It is the same in old (13th century) English, but Dutch and Frisian both use single l in both cases while German uses double l in both cases and Danish used "-ld" in both cases.

Medieval Dutch is like modern Dutch in this respect.

But Dutch uses -ll whenever it is followed by an -e, i.e. -vol but -volle. And it is the same in medieval Dutch. So maybe "full" was "fulle" at some stage and then lost the final -e?

In Danish, the -ld ending (similar to the German -ll) is required if you want to shorten a a stressed vowel but unstressed vowel have almost the same length regardless of the added d. So maybe, in some old version of English, "ful" would be pronounced "fool" while "wonderful" was just pronounced like it is today?
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Posted 2016-February-09, 15:19

I understood and accepted "Febuary" (pronunciation) for a while but lately it's getting on my nerves. For some reason I'm not really bothered by "nucular."
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Posted 2016-February-10, 10:13

 gwnn, on 2016-February-09, 15:19, said:

I understood and accepted "Febuary" (pronunciation) for a while but lately it's getting on my nerves. For some reason I'm not really bothered by "nucular."

In American English, Febuary is the primary pronunciation.

http://www.oxforddic...uary?q=February

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Posted 2016-February-10, 10:29

 barmar, on 2016-February-10, 10:13, said:

In American English, Febuary is the primary pronunciation.

http://www.oxforddic...uary?q=February


Certainly not in American songs, the only two I can think of pronounce the R distinctly (exercise to find the songs).
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Posted 2016-February-10, 10:35

 Cyberyeti, on 2016-February-10, 10:29, said:

Certainly not in American songs, the only two I can think of pronounce the R distinctly (exercise to find the songs).

Failed at that exercise. I found a site that lists songs with months in the titles, and this is the only February entry.

Febuary Air

At about 1:02 she says the title words with no first R.

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Posted 2016-February-10, 11:40

 barmar, on 2016-February-10, 10:35, said:

Failed at that exercise. I found a site that lists songs with months in the titles, and this is the only February entry.

Febuary Air

At about 1:02 she says the title words with no first R.


Not obscure

American pie - February made me shiver

Killers - Somebody told me -

Well somebody told me you had a boyfriend
Who looked like a girlfriend
That I had in February of last year
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Posted 2016-February-10, 11:53

Must be a pretty bad website Barry. A quick google gave me:-

Dar Williams - February
Joan Baez - February
Foo Fighters - February Stars
Barbara Dickson - January February
Josh Groban - February Song
The Avett Brothers - February Seven
Julie London - February Brings the Rain
Goo Goo Dolls - Two Days in February
Bright Eyes - February 15th
The Killers - Somebody Told Me [February appears in the chorus]

I am fairly confident BD is one of CY's songs. Perhaps JB for the other? Both clearly use the r pronuncuation; the FF song on the other hand, argunably the best-known name on the list, is clearly without. There are plenty of other songs with February in the lyrics too but I stopped after the first 10.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 11:55

Lol, I cross-posted listening to some of the songs :D. Really not Barbara Dickson? Shocked, I would have thought you are just the right age for her and that was a big hit in the day.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 12:14

 barmar, on 2016-February-10, 10:13, said:

In American English, Febuary is the primary pronunciation.

http://www.oxforddic...uary?q=February

I knew it was widespread and that it was acceptable but didn't know it was considered primary or standard! I'll be back after I throw up some more.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 12:18

I don't know anyone who pronounces it Febooary.

edit: I immediately went and started asking people, and now I know at least one person who drops the first r.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 12:35

 Zelandakh, on 2016-February-10, 11:55, said:

Lol, I cross-posted listening to some of the songs :D. Really not Barbara Dickson? Shocked, I would have thought you are just the right age for her and that was a big hit in the day.


Well Barbara Dickson is a Scot so probably not relevant in this discussion of how it's pronounced in the US.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 12:46

 kuhchung, on 2016-February-10, 12:18, said:

I don't know anyone who pronounces it Febooary.

edit: I immediately went and started asking people, and now I know at least one person who drops the first r.

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Posted 2016-February-10, 12:58

No we had a civilized conversation, and now we've all agreed to spell it Febyuairy.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 13:28

Reminds me of the guy who started pronouncing GIF as "jaif" (like "rife" but substitute the "r" for the second consonant from "beige") because there had been a big flamework on his youtube comment section about ghiff vs jiff.
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Posted 2016-February-10, 14:23

Wed-Nes-day? Or when's-day, as in how long until dawn.... ;)

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Posted 2016-February-10, 14:28

 gwnn, on 2016-February-10, 13:28, said:

Reminds me of the guy who started pronouncing GIF as "jaif" (like "rife" but substitute the "r" for the second consonant from "beige") because there had been a big flamework on his youtube comment section about ghiff vs jiff.


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