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Posted 2016-July-12, 03:42
What's the 2NT?
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Posted 2016-July-12, 04:17
North should be either
1) 18-19 balanced
2) semi-balanced, in which case he might be slightly weaker.
3) singleton in diamonds, but with a source of tricks in clubs
In all cases 3NT is obvious
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1) 18-19 balanced
2) semi-balanced, in which case he might be slightly weaker.
3) singleton in diamonds, but with a source of tricks in clubs
In all cases 3NT is obvious
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Posted 2016-July-12, 05:51
Partner is obviously not balanced, he bid 1♠.
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Posted 2016-July-12, 05:59
Fluffy, on 2016-July-12, 05:51, said:
Partner is obviously not balanced, he bid 1♠.
What would X have been from partner instead of 1♠ ?
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Posted 2016-July-12, 06:08
Assuming that Opener would have doubled with a balanced or semi-balanced hand and 4 spades, they look to be advertising themself as 4315 and about 16-17 hcp. But as with CY, my first instinct was to question how you differentiate between X and 1♠ as everyone seems to do so slightly differently.
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Posted 2016-July-12, 06:17
Pass
AQxx...Kxx...x...AQJxx
give east:
KJxx..Axx...QJxxx...x
AQxx...Kxx...x...AQJxx
give east:
KJxx..Axx...QJxxx...x
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Posted 2016-July-12, 07:45
Cyberyeti, on 2016-July-12, 05:59, said:
What would X have been from partner instead of 1♠ ?
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Posted 2016-July-12, 09:03
Given a red double by them and a 1 heart bid volunteered by lho partners 2nt bid is a bit fishy.
Since all I did was get us out of a potentially fatal 3-2 club fit and try to play a diamond partial I'm raising and if partner has less than Qx in diamonds (AND at least 1 of them is bidding on air) we are going to have a little chat.
Edit: I suppose AKxxxxx of clubs with appropriate major suit cards is ok in that my lho may be bidding on a 4-6 nothing count.
Since all I did was get us out of a potentially fatal 3-2 club fit and try to play a diamond partial I'm raising and if partner has less than Qx in diamonds (AND at least 1 of them is bidding on air) we are going to have a little chat.
Edit: I suppose AKxxxxx of clubs with appropriate major suit cards is ok in that my lho may be bidding on a 4-6 nothing count.
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Posted 2016-July-12, 11:21
That seems to play North for perfect cards say something close to:
Axxx...Kx...Qx...AQJxx which looks like a 1nt opener but ok.
east something close to:
KQJx..Axxx...Jxxx...x
otherwise agree North seems to have bid a fishy 2nt.
Axxx...Kx...Qx...AQJxx which looks like a 1nt opener but ok.
east something close to:
KQJx..Axxx...Jxxx...x
otherwise agree North seems to have bid a fishy 2nt.
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Posted 2016-July-12, 12:22
mike777, on 2016-July-12, 06:17, said:
Pass
AQxx...Kxx...x...AQJxx
AQxx...Kxx...x...AQJxx
Assuming South's bidding shows roughly 5-9 points, I don't think that's a 2N bid.
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Posted 2016-July-12, 12:33
Jinksy, on 2016-July-12, 12:22, said:
Assuming South's bidding shows roughly 5-9 points, I don't think that's a 2N bid.
fair enough what are your 4 hands?
It does sound like a fishy 2nt
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Posted 2016-July-12, 13:16
mike777, on 2016-July-12, 06:17, said:
Pass
AQxx...Kxx...x...AQJxx
give east:
KJxx..Axx...QJxxx...x
AQxx...Kxx...x...AQJxx
give east:
KJxx..Axx...QJxxx...x
With this hand opener should pass 2D.
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Posted 2016-July-12, 13:17
I'm bidding 3D.
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Posted 2016-July-13, 02:26
Did we have a weak jump in diamonds available? If so what have I shown now?
These questions are academic however because 3NT is clear imo. (Although partner can't possibly be 18-19 bal).
These questions are academic however because 3NT is clear imo. (Although partner can't possibly be 18-19 bal).
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Posted 2016-July-13, 03:33
P has more than one stop in so my ♥ are usefull. He has 5-6 fast tricks. So we need more than 2♦ tricks. But he has probably 2♦cards at most, judging after his carefully 2NT.
If he has only a single, we are doomed, if he has a doubleton, he has to duck and the attacked suit has to stand. Beside bad ♦ standing.
But 2NT is in any case not wishable so I will try 3NT with the expectation of a collapse.
The alternate 3♦ may even be worse than 2NT.
If he has only a single, we are doomed, if he has a doubleton, he has to duck and the attacked suit has to stand. Beside bad ♦ standing.
But 2NT is in any case not wishable so I will try 3NT with the expectation of a collapse.
The alternate 3♦ may even be worse than 2NT.
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Posted 2016-July-13, 03:52
don't see how my hand can be any better than this
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Posted 2016-July-13, 05:13
wank, on 2016-July-13, 03:52, said:
don't see how my hand can be any better than this
♥Qxx, ♦KQJ10xx would be better with what looks like a certain heart entry once the diamonds have been established for one loser.
Partner is very likely to be 4315 here and you have 2 tricks for him, possibly with the consolidation of a heart trick but no late entry.
Give partner as much as AKxx, AQx, x, AQxxx and 3N is not great.
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Posted 2016-July-13, 07:41
Yes and at some point we need to factor in the opponents vul bids....they show something...not zero.
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Posted 2016-July-13, 08:41
I will raise to 3NT within a nanosecond.
2D showed six diamonds and little else. You could easily make such a bid on Qx, xx, KJxxxx, xxx. Yet you have quite a good diamond suit including the Ace and King AND THE TEN which can make the Queen or Jack, if with partner, huge. And, even beyond that, you have heart values which may produce a likely second stopper if partner has a holding like K9x or A9x and will produce a positional second stopper if partner has Ax.
You have a good hand for this auction. It would be EXTREMELY timid to not bid game.
2D showed six diamonds and little else. You could easily make such a bid on Qx, xx, KJxxxx, xxx. Yet you have quite a good diamond suit including the Ace and King AND THE TEN which can make the Queen or Jack, if with partner, huge. And, even beyond that, you have heart values which may produce a likely second stopper if partner has a holding like K9x or A9x and will produce a positional second stopper if partner has Ax.
You have a good hand for this auction. It would be EXTREMELY timid to not bid game.