[000002]

2friends met the seldom auction on the net 3weeks ago,they ask me how to define that bidding,the auction as below:

N--E-----S-----W

p==p===1♥=2♦
db=redb=2♠=p
p==3♦==p==p
3♥

what does this 3♥ disclose?

how to do if u are south and hold this hand followed:

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regards

[Kalvan14]

I would expect Hxx Hx xxx Hxxxx; on average, 10 HCP.
It might look good for a 4♥, likely on a finesse and hearts 3-2.

The saying is 6-4, bid one more

[hatchett]

If double of 2♦ doesn't guarantee 4♠ then I think 3♥ is just a hand that doesn't want to sell to 3♦ and I would pass 3♥, with a minimum in high cards and four of them in the opponent's suit and no better then an 8 card fit. If I bid game I expect to be doubled if hearts are 4-1.

If double of 2♦ guarantees 4♠ then, I would expect partner to have something like ♠Axxxx♥Kx♦xxx♣Qxx. Here 3♥ shows a hand that wants to compete to three ♠ and simultaneously might allow me to bid game with a very good double fit.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

the seq. does not exist.

Does partner really want to play on the 3 level
with 7 card fit? Does partner think, opponents
are idiots?
What ever you do, if it turns out badly, shoot
partner.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[helene_t]

At most, it could be a hand that wants to compete to 3♠ but wants a hearts lead. But he's on lead himself. Maybe he has ace sec of hearts or something and wants a heart return.

But this is far-fetched. Marlowe's analysis is more realistic.

[FrancesHinden]

Do you play 5-card majors?
What would you bid after 1H (2D) x P with KQx Kxxxx xx Axx ?
Does partner's double of 2D promise 4 spades?
What would partner's double of 3D mean?

My answers to the first and last of these are yes, and penalties. Between them that means that partner cannot have 3-card heart support (he would have raised hearts on one of the previous two rounds) but can have a 'take-out double' hand that wants to compete.

There are two possible hand types for partner
a) He has something like Axxx Kx xxx Qxxx and is saying he wants to compete with 3S, but is bidding 3H in case you only have 3-card spade support
He doesn't have 4 spades, he doubled on a 3235, something like Axx Kx xxx Kxxxx but doesn't want to pass out 3D.

On the first hand we want to bid 3S, on the second we want to pass 3H. However, 3H is not dreadful opposite the first hand type, so I shall pass.

I cannot see how game can be good if partner could not move over 2S.

[whereagles]

I dunno what pard has, but, since he's bidding like hell, I think I'll add a 4th.

[Kalvan14]

The first hand (4-2-3-4) might be better in defense than in offense; the second offers some chances for a game. S has given a minimum answer to the t/o X, and has not acted over 3♦. OTOH, the shape is quite good, even if the point count is minimum. Why not Axx KQ xxx Jxxxx? Now 4♥ is quite good (but N does not know abt the 6th card). The reasonable bid is pass, but 4♥ has some allure

[helene_t]

FrancesHinden, on Mar 17 2006, 12:04 PM, said:

There are two possible hand types for partner
a) He has something like Axxx Kx xxx Qxxx and is saying he wants to compete with 3S, but is bidding 3H in case you only have 3-card spade support
B ) He doesn't have 4 spades, he doubled on a 3235, something like Axx Kx xxx Kxxxx but doesn't want to pass out 3D.

I think partner would double rather than bid 3♥ with any of those hands. At least if he has studied the LOTT (which he should, LOL).

Maybe you should try to reason "impossible call = impossible hand". If partner is really smart he might be trying to say that he wants to compete to either 3♠ or 4♣, something like a weak 4-6.

[Fluffy]

Partner is taking advantage that opponents put themselves on a forcing sequence. I won't bid 4 over a forcing pass by RHO, so first question is: Does redouble make all your passes forcing?

[helene_t]

A business rdbl creates a force but I think this was a Rozenkrants rdbl.

[000002]

HI Everybody

Did someone ignore that south opened on the 3rd position?
1)to compete on 3level with 7cards trump ?
oh no, it's impossible.
2)does taking redouble by east forced?
oh no,he is a passed.


thanks

[000002]

FrancesHinden, on Mar 17 2006, 05:04 AM, said:

Do you play 5-card majors?
What would you bid after 1H (2D) x P with KQx Kxxxx xx Axx ?
Does partner's double of 2D promise 4 spades?
What would partner's double of 3D mean?

My answers to the first and last of these are yes, and penalties. Between them that means that partner cannot have 3-card heart support (he would have raised hearts on one of the previous two rounds) but can have a 'take-out double' hand that wants to compete.

There are two possible hand types for partner
a) He has something like Axxx Kx xxx Qxxx and is saying he wants to compete with 3S, but is bidding 3H in case you only have 3-card spade support
He doesn't have 4 spades, he doubled on a 3235, something like Axx Kx xxx Kxxxx but doesn't want to pass out 3D.

On the first hand we want to bid 3S, on the second we want to pass 3H.  However, 3H is not dreadful opposite the first hand type, so I shall pass.

I cannot see how game can be good if partner could not move over 2S.

Do you play 5-card majors?
y
What would you bid after 1H (2D) x P with KQx Kxxxx xx Axx ?
2♠
Does partner's double of 2D promise 4 spades?
y
What would partner's double of 3D mean?
this is too difficult for my friends,their answer is "sry we don't know.maybe short on ♦?"