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You have an easy pass. Both sides are in a misfit, wait for development when you're not forced.
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Posted 2006-March-24, 10:08
whereagles, on Mar 24 2006, 04:38 AM, said:
Incidently, I think 2♣ and 2♦ should be natural here. The only suit that's guaranteed to have 4 cards in this auction is spades, so 2♠ should show the heart raise.
I hope that you do not think that I am picking on you
But the notion that 2♠ should be the only good ♥ raise is silly. It forces to 3♥ and therefore is invitational. Most good players like to be able to distinguish between a purely competitive 2♥ and a forward-going constructive raise to 2♥. Unfortunately, a correction by partner to 2♥ over your 2♠ bid is insufficient.And 2♦ as natural is even more ridiculous. You could not overcall 1♦, then you heard LHO bid the suit, and now you want to bid 2♦ naturally? Not in this lifetime
BTW, I liked Kalvan's comment about the failure to overcall the first time: I agree, this is a good overcall. The suit sucks, but the side AKxxxx is nice, and a 1♠ nicely preempts the opps. Indeed, consider that LHO (on this actual auction) almost certainly lacks 4♥. Yoy may have got by him completely on the first round, unless he has a strong hand. Now, that is not to say that you would get by partner, whose forcing 2♥ would cause a major headache
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Posted 2006-March-24, 10:11
mikeh, on Mar 24 2006, 04:08 PM, said:
You could not overcall 1♦, then you heard LHO bid the suit, and now you want to bid 2♦ naturally?
Well, it could be natural as in diamonds + heart fit, or 4-card diamond. But yeah, you're right that you probably don't need it as natural. So there you have your constructive raise to 2♥. Happy now?
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Posted 2006-March-25, 02:05
Always a surprise: I'd not have anticipated such different opinions on 2♣ and 2♦ meanings.
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Posted 2006-March-27, 08:56
2♣ a cuebid without agreement? What? I don't play it as such and I don't think anyone I play with does.
2♣ from me every time.
J
2♣ from me every time.
J
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Posted 2006-March-28, 07:57
Joe de Balliol, on Mar 27 2006, 02:56 PM, said:
2♣ a cuebid without agreement? What? I don't play it as such and I don't think anyone I play with does.
2♣ from me every time.
J
2♣ from me every time.
J
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