All comments welcome
Just curious
#1
Posted 2007-May-19, 13:35
All comments welcome
#2
Posted 2007-May-19, 13:43
it would be forcing for me.
Is this not a hand, when you would like to
know if partner has a real response?
2S is out, it should show 5-4.
2NT will get you to high, and you make it
hard to find out your 4-4 fit in spades,
I just remember a discussion, what 3S over
2Nt showed, ... it was not 100% clear.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#3
Posted 2007-May-19, 13:51
#4 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-May-19, 13:54
edit: wow lots of 1S bids already... I guess I will add in I think this is an obvious 2N bid showing 18-19 balanced. I even have all the suits double stopped. I want them to lead spades. We can find a 4-4 spade fit unless partner has a complete yarb (like a 5 count). I don't really see any gain from not bidding 2N.
#5
Posted 2007-May-19, 13:55
Of course, if partner will often pass 1♠ with 8-9 hcp or if my 1♠ rebid would guarantee five or more clubs, I suppose I have to bid 2NT. My preferred agreement is that 1♠ could be balanced and partner can only pass with a bad 7-count or less.
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#6
Posted 2007-May-19, 14:03
Paul
#7
Posted 2007-May-19, 14:13
2N is blatantly obvious.
#9 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2007-May-19, 14:18
awm, on May 19 2007, 02:55 PM, said:
Too bad this does not show 18-19 balanced anymore and would be a normal bid with 16.
#10
Posted 2007-May-19, 14:24
GOPs 1H response has very likely removed 2 losers from my hand.
(If CHO regularly bids on trash so that you can't assume 2 cover cards, then you have worse problems than those of this poll!)
In front of GOP, I have no problem with a 2N rebid.
We have NMF and other tools, and we are very likely to use them.
Behind GOP, I'm far more worried about the auction stopping too soon.
Nonetheless, I'd still probably rebid 2N under most circumstances.
OTOH, with HHhx in S's and a hand that evaluates to a 19 count or very close to it, this is not "most circumstances" IMHO.
If 1S is Forcing, that's my vote. If 1S is not Forcing, then I want to make a Forcing bid and neither 1S or 2N are it so...
EDIT: I'm blind =6= controls, which is typical of a flat 18 count.
That makes my reasoning about N's hand being close to a 19 count in terms of playing strength specious.
My vote becomes 1S if it's Forcing, and 2N otherwise.
#11
Posted 2007-May-19, 14:44
jdonn, on May 19 2007, 02:35 PM, said:
P P 1♣ P
1♥ P ?
All comments welcome
I guess opening 1nt to avoid this was not an option. If not then I assume 2nt is our agreement here.
I read in some bridge magazine a few months back that rebidding one spade was catching on with some players with this hand type. I forgot why?
#12
Posted 2007-May-19, 15:03
Good article on this issue.
The hand type he is worried about was:
Kxxx....xxxxx..xx...Qx
Assume opener may or may not have 4 card spade suit and 18-19 hcp.
#14
Posted 2007-May-19, 18:00
- hrothgar
#15
Posted 2007-May-19, 18:17
#16
Posted 2007-May-19, 20:12
Of course, I assume that we can get back to ♠ when appropriate... anyone unable to do so? Surely not.....
And if he passes 2N when we can make some number of ♠s? Too bad... my methods aren't perfect and neither are yours...get over it
#17
Posted 2007-May-19, 21:32
#18
Posted 2007-May-19, 23:11
mike777, on May 19 2007, 09:03 PM, said:
Kxxx....xxxxx..xx...Qx
Assume opener may or may not have 4 card spade suit and 18-19 hcp.
Who cares about that?, 2NT is forcing anyway, we will find the spade fit later
#19
Posted 2007-May-19, 23:37
Fluffy, on May 20 2007, 12:11 AM, said:
mike777, on May 19 2007, 09:03 PM, said:
Kxxx....xxxxx..xx...Qx
Assume opener may or may not have 4 card spade suit and 18-19 hcp.
Who cares about that?, 2NT is forcing anyway, we will find the spade fit later
ok so you play 3nt when partner has only 3 spades, I guess. good luck.
#20
Posted 2007-May-19, 23:37
Priority ONE is to find a major suit fit.
Bid 1♠, which would be forcing for me.
BebopKid (Bryan Lee Williams)
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P P 1♣ P
1♥ P ?