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Another suit combination hope for the rest of us

#1 User is offline   paulg 

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Posted 2007-December-11, 07:26

British Gold Cup semi-final.

How do you play ♥AK opposite ♥862?

When this is the trump suit in a doubled grand slam it doesn't really matter! The cost was -1700.

How do you think that two expert players, who haven't played many boards together despite playing in the semi-final, bid confidently to 7♥ in 5 bids. Opposition are silent.

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Posted 2007-December-11, 07:36

1NT(12-14 including ♥AK)-2♦ (GF stayman OR transfer)
2♥- and I can't figure out the rest of it
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2007-December-11, 09:18

1 ♥ 4 ♥
4 NT 5 ♦
7 ♥

4 Heart Was bid as preempt and understood as to play with 12-15 HCPS opposite the limited opening. 5 Diamond showed 3 or 0 KCs and opener thought this must be 3 because else he could not have 12-15. He did not wat responder to pass 5 Heart, so he bid the GS on his own.

Okay this is more a non-expert story, but the "best" way I can think about in just 5 bids.

Oh, one more:

2 ♣ 2 ♥
4 NT 5 ♦
7 ♥

2 Club was strong 2 Heart was positive with Hearts for opener and second neg. for responder.
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Posted 2007-December-11, 10:12

agree with Roland. Since opps double i assume they had some side strenght elsewhere then in H. So not only there was a strain problem but there was also a strenght problem. So that why i thnik Roland is right.
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Posted 2007-December-11, 10:53

cardsharp, on Dec 11 2007, 08:26 AM, said:

British Gold Cup semi-final.

How do you play ♥AK opposite ♥862?

When this is the trump suit in a doubled grand slam it doesn't really matter! The cost was -1700.

How do you think that two expert players, who haven't played many boards together despite playing in the semi-final, bid confidently to 7♥ in 5 bids. Opposition are silent.

Paul

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Posted 2007-December-11, 12:02

Codo, on Dec 11 2007, 05:18 PM, said:

1 ♥ 4 ♥
4 NT 5 ♦
7 ♥

why did someone open 1♥ on ♥AK?
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Posted 2007-December-11, 12:07

How about this:

West: AKQxxx AK, xxxxx, void

East: x, xxx, AK, AKQxxxxx

1S - 2H (planning on a key card ask for hearts later)
3S - 4C
4H - 6C
6S - 7C
7H

Not 5 bids I know :)
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Posted 2007-December-11, 12:16

pclayton, on Dec 11 2007, 01:07 PM, said:

How about this:

West: AKQxxx AK, xxxxx, void

East: x, xxx, AK, AKQxxxxx

1S - 2H (planning on a key card ask for hearts later)
3S - 4C
4H - 6C
6S - 7C
7H

Not 5 bids I know :)

Nor would Mr. xxx stay in 7♥ :)
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Posted 2007-December-11, 14:24

Roland was very close.

2♣ (1)    2♦ (2)
2♥ (3)    4♥ (4)
7♥ (5) ... (Dble)

(1) Strong
(2) Negative or waiting
(3) Opener: Kokish, hearts or strong balanced    Responder: hearts
(4) Opener: 6/7 hearts to the QJ                  Responder: heart support, weakest possible hand
(5) To play

Of course they both have heart support, unfortunately an opponent has the suit itself.
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Posted 2007-December-11, 16:00

cardsharp, on Dec 11 2007, 02:24 PM, said:

Roland was very close.

2♣  (1)           2♦  (2)
2♥ (3)      4♥ (4)
7♥ (5) ... (Dble)

(1) Strong
(2) Negative or waiting
(3) Opener: Kokish, hearts or strong balanced     Responder: hearts
(4) Opener: 6/7 hearts to the QJ                  Responder: heart support, weakest possible hand
(5) To play

Of course they both have heart support, unfortunately an opponent has the suit itself.

As one who is not a fan of 2♦ waiting and really views Kokish as basically unneeded, a cruel smile came across my face while reading this :rolleyes: .

I also wonder why one of them, perhaps realizing a system screw up, didn't run to 7NT and how that would have fared ?
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Posted 2007-December-11, 16:39

Anytime a partnership forgets a convention the result can be ridiculous. Usually it is not on such a "grand" scale, however.
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Posted 2007-December-14, 12:24

cardsharp, on Dec 11 2007, 03:24 PM, said:

Roland was very close ...
2♣  (1)           2♦  (2)
2♥ (3)     4♥ (4)
7♥ (5) ... (Dble)
(1) Strong
(2) Negative or waiting
(3) Opener: Kokish, hearts or strong balanced     Responder: hearts
(4) Opener: 6/7 hearts to the QJ                  Responder: heart support, weakest possible hand
(5) To play

Of course they both have heart support, unfortunately an opponent has the suit itself.

I suppose they were playing with screens. Otherwise, it seems that opener was super-ethical because he will have have noted responder's failure to alert his Kokish 2♥ rebid
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Posted 2007-December-14, 13:07

No screens in use. This happened in the final set when they were already 60 IMPs down.
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