[benlessard]

Scoring: IMP

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1D (12-22) unbalanced at least 4D
2D raise 6-10 could be 3 card
2H natural reverse (could be 3 cards)
3Nt stopper in both unbid suit minimum hand (2Nt would be GF with desire to declare the hand but deosnt promise stopper in both unbid suit) , 2S would be slow down)

all pass


I think there is nothing we can do.

Do you agree ?

PS in 6D how do you play the hand ?

[jdonn]

I think 3NT fast arrival is a bad agreement, but I would not bid this slam anyway. I think I would end in 5♦ after investigating beyond 3NT. Something like

1♦ 1NT
2♥ 3♦ (gf)
3♠ 3NT
4♦ 5♦

looks right to me.

[Fluffy]

Well, north knew 100% that partner had ♠Q, and had a lot of chances to have ♦K. This means he only lacks ♣A and ♥Q or doubleton, He probably shouldn't pass 3NT.

The problem is the methods wich made you preempt yourself.ç


In 6♦ on a neutral heart lead, lay down ♦A, and proceed to ruff 2 hearts in dummy.

[Codo]

I am with fluffy about the bidding, north knows about the Queen of spade.

I would play ace and king of Diamonds first. IF trumps are two-two I will survive any heart split.

[Winstonm]

I am fairly certain I would end in 3N as well, and 6D isn't the best slam in the world, anyway - without the diamond 9-spot, it looks a little under 50% to me.

My auction would be:

1D-1N
2H-2N (non-forcing relay)
3S-3N
P

[jdonn]

Fluffy, on Dec 23 2007, 05:30 AM, said:

Well, north knew 100% that partner had ♠Q, and had a lot of chances to have ♦K. This means he only lacks ♣A and ♥Q or doubleton, He probably shouldn't pass 3NT.

His partner can't have QS KD AC for the 3NT bid. And Qxx or xx of hearts is not good enough if his partner has just 3 diamonds.

[Fluffy]

OP might enlighten us as to what requirements does a hand have to have to bid 1Nt or 2♦ with 3 cards. I beleive after 3NT the 3 card raise is no longer an option.

[han]

I don't think it is possible for responder to bid 3NT in Winston's auction. With K10xx in opener's first suit and only Q10xx responder has to support diamonds. But I doubt they'd find slam then.

[benlessard]

1D is unbalanced so most of the time it has 5D or+.

4441,(31)45,(40)45 are the only shape without 5D. So responder will have an easy raise to 2D with Qxx ,xx ,Kxx, Qxxxx.
With Qxx,Jxx,Kxx,Qxxx its border line between 1Nt & 2D IMHO (but i know most will say its a clear cut 1Nt)

Partner with sub minimum or really scrap will bid 2S slow down. Everything else is GF. 2Nt is used to protect a holding like Kx & Qx and doesnt promise stoppers in both the unbid suits its also used for hands too strong for 3Nt. 3Nt would suggest a soft hand with minimal values but enough to play game. It should denies a nice fit in D (unless no ruffingpower).

I think 3Nt is right on the spot for values (maybe a bit short) Kxxx is a vgood fit and usually with this holding 3D is the bid. But with such a soft hand i can understand 3Nt. Because a 3D bid might lead overboard.

What used do you reserve for a jump 3Nt in similar auction ?