[helene_t]

Pass or 2♥. 3♥ overstates the offensive potential. In one partnership this is a clearcut 3♥ opening at favorable but thats a special agreement.

I think 2♥ has the merit of describing the offensive potential before it's too late, just in case p has a good hand and is stuck with length in opp's suit. And of course occasionally we may succeed in jamming opps' auction.

Also, if I pass, I probably cannot re-enter the auction since a delayed 2/3♥ bid would often suggest some awkward 2-suiter, it would not show this hand.

I lean towards pass. I don't want a heart lead and I don't want p to bid 3N on the idea that he can set up hearts.

As for the B/I issue I think it doesn't really matter how strong a player p is and how strong you are yourself. P will assume a disciplined preempt so when he encounters an undisciplined ones he may have tough luck, this applies regardless of level. What does matter is opps' skill level, how likely they are to mess up their own auction if we do preempt and how likely they are to mess it up if we don't.

[mcphee]

It seems the bidding disease is contagious. PASS IS A BID. Have people really become unglued to even consider bidding this garbage? In third seat you might consider 1NT or something along that line, but in first it is losing bridge to bid with these hands.

[rogerclee]

mcphee, on Feb 29 2008, 06:23 AM, said:

Have people really become unglued to even consider bidding this garbage?

Them's fightin' words.

[han]

OK, so say you pass. Now LHO opens a strong club, partner passes and RHO bids 1D showing a weak hand (I believe 0-5 HCP). What do you do next?

[kenrexford]

han, on Feb 29 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

OK, so say you pass. Now LHO opens a strong club, partner passes and RHO bids 1D showing a weak hand (I believe 0-5 HCP). What do you do next?

It depends upon what we have agreed to play here. But, assuming natural, I'm acting weird. Maybe 1NT.

[han]

You can assume that double shows the majors and 1NT shows the minors, all other bids are natural.

[gwnn]

Bob, pass is not a bid. Bids are made of a number of 1 thru 7 and a denomination. Pass, double and redouble are calls.

[kenrexford]

han, on Feb 29 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

You can assume that double shows the majors and 1NT shows the minors, all other bids are natural.

Yep. 1NT looks nice.

[han]

Thank you for your contribution Csaba, let's get on with the bridge!

[skjaeran]

Three possible calls for me; pass, 2♦ (garbage Multi) and 3♥. The hand isn't close to a 2♥ for me. Normally I'd open 2♦ playing garbage Multi. If not, I'd pass more often than opening 3♥ - who my partner is would affect my decision, also opps and state of the match.

[Cascade]

gwnn, on Mar 1 2008, 05:14 AM, said:

Bob, pass is not a bid. Bids are made of a number of 1 thru 7 and a denomination. Pass, double and redouble are calls.

Now that we are enlightened we need to go back through all of the Bidding Forums in Bridge magazines and give everyone who passed, doubled or redoubled zero since they were supposed to make a BID.

Seriously the distinction between bid and call is for the application of the laws. In the vernacular every "call" is a bid. That is all "bids", passes, doubles and redoubles are bids.

In the application of the laws it is the opposite "call" is the all inclusive word and so every "bid" is a "call".

[rogerclee]

han, on Feb 29 2008, 09:08 AM, said:

OK, so say you pass. Now LHO opens a strong club, partner passes and RHO bids 1D showing a weak hand (I believe 0-5 HCP). What do you do next?

Maybe this is inconsistent, but I think I have less to gain by preempting wildly now. 2♥, though; partner's pass should practically promise 2+♥ at all white (unless he is 4144). When they start 1♣-1♦, this is just annoying enough for them to get a couple of decisions wrong without seriously risking anything.

[han]

I bid 3H on my second turn, although I certainly played with the idea of psyching.

Phil had a monster and raised to 4H. They got to 5C which Phil doubled for +300 and some IMPs.