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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-October-20, 04:42

Q97652
6
AT42
82

In which conditions (vul/scoring) would you open this 2♠ first seat? How about second seat?
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Posted 2008-October-20, 05:27

gwnn, on Oct 20 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

Q97652
6
AT42
832

How many cards is that?
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Posted 2008-October-20, 06:18

gnasher, on Oct 20 2008, 08:27 PM, said:

gwnn, on Oct 20 2008, 11:42 AM, said:

Q97652
6
AT42
832

How many cards is that?

It is the modern style of presenting problems: You are allowed to take any card anway and make a descisson for the given hand.

So when you take away the ace, there will be still some juniors with a 2♠ wtp, where do you waiting for?

I will limit myself to: IF you take away any low card outside spades, I will open it in white at imps and in mps. Whe I play conserative pairs at mps, I would open it red/red too.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 07:42

If it is 6142 then I would open 2S unless unfavorable.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-October-20, 08:22

yep, 6142, the club 3 was in plus.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 08:25

2♠ unless r/w.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 08:55

I would open 2♠ under any conditions.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 09:51

han, on Oct 20 2008, 05:42 AM, said:

If it is 6142 then I would open 2S unless unfavorable.

Me too. R/W too rich for moi.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 09:54

I'd pass at unfavourable, or in second seat at game all.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 15:27

2♠ always for me.

Vulnerable, I would certainly prefer a better suit than this, however, the 6-4 shape, and the outside Ace tempt me to bid.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 15:39

NV I open in first or second seat.

Vul it is marginal for me 1st seat. I like the extra distribution but hate the spade quality and minimum values. I might open All Vul I would not open Vul versus Not.

Vul 2nd seat it is too rich.
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Posted 2008-October-20, 20:37

2S, except 3rd seat FAV (ill open 3S)

If you open 2S R/W its because you are clueless about vulnerability.
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Posted 2008-October-21, 09:56

I don't see the problem with opening 2S at any seat/vulnerability. Maybe the question is: do you open a weak 2 with a side 4 card suit?
Anyway, I say yes, always.

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Posted 2008-October-21, 10:39

I'd open it too, but that does not say much, I am a junior. RvW I'd consider status of the match, position and opponents :).
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Posted 2008-October-21, 14:22

Only nv. 2♠ vul vs not is :blink:.
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