[gwnn]

1♥-x-2♣-2♠
3♥-3♠-4♥-p
p-x-p-4♠
end

your comments on the auction (from the doubler's side)? can you give example hands for doubler and advancer? does vulnerability/form of scoring matter?

[TylerE]

X = Penalty, but may not be beat in hand off the top. Partner has shown some values here, after all.

Axxx
x
KQxx
Kxxx

[pclayton]

TylerE, on Oct 27 2008, 11:12 AM, said:

X = Penalty, but may not be beat in hand off the top. Partner has shown some values here, after all.

Axxx
x
KQxx
Kxxx

While I'm fine with 3♠ on this, it isn't close to a double of 4♥.

I'm more inclined to peg this hand as something more like:

AQxx, Kx, AQxx, xxx

Pard is allowed to pull, but I wouldn't expect it more than 15% of the time.

[cherdano]

TylerE, on Oct 27 2008, 01:12 PM, said:

X = Penalty, but may not be beat in hand off the top. Partner has shown some values here, after all.

Axxx
x
KQxx
Kxxx

I agree it is penalty, but probably with s.th. like ♥AQ. With the hand above, I would be expecting overtricks in 4♥ more often than undertricks. How many tricks do you think we get on defense when partner may have KQxxx xx Jxxx xx? Or KQxxxx xx xxx xx?