[JLOL]

mycroft, on Apr 17 2009, 04:00 PM, said:

I stand by my statement in the last thread.  Qualify the six pairs, then do intensive group training.  Unless you're supremely unlucky and have one pair no-one can stand, teams will form.

Turkey is in August I think, these trials are in may, how much training are you expecting?

Also what do you mean "teams will form" I'm stupid so I don't get it lol. Eventually with 3 pairs will be on what team?

[mycroft]

So, I don't know the timing. I'm the black sheep here - deep in the wilds of no special events (no juniors, no seniors, oh yeah, no US) - so I didn't pay too much attention to it.

What I said last time:

"As far as team chemistry is concerned, if you qualify 6 pairs to make 2 teams (wow, what a luxury. Okay, stop it Michael, Jan said not to go there), AND you then have concerted training sessions between then and the event, teams will form, and unless things are really unlucky (i.e. there's one pair of idiots nobody wants to be with), the chemistry will develop. That is a unique advantage over anybody else's trial procedure, and I see nothing wrong with going with it."

Don't know how much training, but in 4 months if the 6 pairs play together and against each other, one is likely to be able to see which way the wind's blowing.

Note that I didn't recommend this for any of the U>21; the chemistry will have been operating in the relevant teams, and a better idea of who are available and their skill level exists to self-select relevant teams.

[vaider14]

so with the trials coming up fast, does anybody actually have a partner to play with? i mean, ive been using BBO for a while now and i havent found any juniors to play with regularly. if anyone's interested in creating a partnership for the trials, let me know.

[inquiry]

Having major events on line, like this junior trial, can be a tremendous cost savings to the players (especially since this three session event has zero entry fee). But with the possibility of a pandemic swine flu outbreak, playing from "home" (well with a mentor in a club or where ever) has to be safer than all the juniors travelling to one location and playing.

I think I read where the deadline to signup is May 9th. Check out the USBF webpage, including the draft condition of contest, by clicking here.

[inquiry]

The first session is in the books... 18 pairs, leaders at 1/3 mark are:

kdwyer-MiniMeck 65.74%
jlall-jjbrr 61.34%
bballrace-jmarriott3 56.48%

A lot of bridge left....

A webbased hyperlinked result sheet with all bidding and play can be found at:
Full hand records thanks to stephen pickett for helping get these webpages up

[hanp]

Thanks Ben, very nice to see the results.

[JLOL]

hanp, on May 16 2009, 04:16 PM, said:

Thanks Ben, very nice to see the results.

Thoughts on my line in 4H on board 10?

Certainly felt a bit stupid afterwards but my dad played the same when I gave it to him.

[Phil]

JLOL, on May 16 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

hanp, on May 16 2009, 04:16 PM, said:

Thanks Ben, very nice to see the results.

Thoughts on my line in 4H on board 10?

Certainly felt a bit stupid afterwards but my dad played the same when I gave it to him.

Board 10

Easy to see looking at all 4, but maybe the question should be - what were you playing for here? I can see an up if LHO has♠K(x), ♥KQx, / ♦A, but 10 tricks looks likely with ♣A, ♣ruff, ♥A, ♥. Bidding this game looks to be at least 60-70% in most fields (+620 was 87.5% as it was).

I think you also get into trouble with your line if ♥K/Q stiff is with RHO.

[hanp]

Agree with Phil on that hand. And I wouldn't have opened 3D Justin.

[fred]

Phil, on May 16 2009, 10:24 PM, said:

I think you also get into trouble with your line if ♥K/Q stiff is with RHO.

I think you are in trouble with any line if LHO has any 4-card heart holding.

Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com

[inquiry]

Unofficial first two session overall results

kdwyer MiniMeck 123.84
jjbrr jlall 118.05
olien zman1 114.8
bballrace jmarriott3 111.1
mtvesuvius goon1407 104.16
jchiu kfay 104.16
zoogman wolkowitz 103.92
bullseye samk 103.23
mathmike alya 101.84
blakers bradhaas 99.29
bdelfs dredog03 96.98
moggo yale12 96.29
threenobob rogerclee 95.82
swim329 mcory0732 90.26
jdaming dude42387 87.98
ALovejoy jbitts 87.61
sflicht CChao 82.86
Maestoso amyst 79.16

[inquiry]

official results after two sessions

USBR Junior Trials 2nd Qual Session May 16, 2009
EVENT LEADERS
   1     123.84   B    6-E/W  Matt Meckstroth - Kevin Dwyer
   2     118.05   B    2-N/S  Justin Lall - Jeremy Fournier
   3     114.82   B    7-N/S  Owen Lien - Zachary Brescoll
   4     111.11   B    2-E/W  Alex Hudson - John Marriott
   5     104.17   B    9-N/S  Kevin Fay - Jason Chiu
   6     104.16   B    3-E/W  Adam Kaplan - Cameron Shunta
   7     103.94   B    8-N/S  Daniel Wolkowitz - Peter Zoogman
   8     103.24   B    9-E/W  Robert Glickman - Sam Katz
   9     101.85   B    6-N/S  Michael Lieberman - Alevtina Asarina
  10      99.31   B    7-E/W  Bradley Haas - Blake Haas
  11      96.99   B    8-E/W  Andre Asbury - Bryan Delfs
  12      96.29   B    1-N/S  Monica Guo - Argenta Price
  13      95.84   B    4-N/S  Eric Mayefsky - Roger Lee
  14      90.28   B    3-N/S  Matt Cory - Angela Collura
  15      87.50   B    4-E/W  Jason Daming - Adam Bohlmann Kunz
  16      86.57   B    1-E/W  Alex Lovejoy - Jonathan Bittner
  17      82.87   B    5-E/W  Constance Chao - Sam Lichtenstein
  18      79.16   B    5-N/S  Chen Li - Jocelyn Bloomfield

[vdoubleu]

vaider14, on Apr 21 2009, 05:57 AM, said:

so with the trials coming up fast, does anybody actually have a partner to play with? i mean, ive been using BBO for a while now and i havent found any juniors to play with regularly.  if anyone's interested in creating a partnership for the trials, let me know.

Vaider14, yes, I might know of one of our Juniors who is free.

Send me a BBO message: vdoubleu

Valerie

[mtvesuvius]

Final standings in the USBF Trials for Turkey:

1. Lall-Fournier; 171.76
2. Meckstroth-Dwyer; 168.66
3. Fay-Chiu; 156.39
4. Hudson-Marriott; 155.93
5. Lien-Brescoll; 155.56
6. Kaplan-Shunta; 148.98
7. Lieberman-Asarina; 148.14
8. Asbury-Delfs; 147.73
9. Wolkowitz-Zoogman; 146.16
10. Glickman-Katz; 145.46
11. Guo-Price; 136.66
12. Haas-Haas; 129.68

We're in!!

[jchiu]

mtvesuvius, on May 17 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

Final standings in the USBF Trials for Turkey:

1. Lall-Fournier; 171.76
2. Meckstroth-Dwyer; 168.66
3. Fay-Chiu; 156.39
4. Hudson-Marriott; 155.93
5. Lien-Brescoll; 155.56
6. Kaplan-Shunta; 148.98
7. Lieberman-Asarina; 148.14
8. Asbury-Delfs; 147.73
9. Wolkowitz-Zoogman; 146.16
10. Glickman-Katz; 145.46
11. Guo-Price; 136.66
12. Haas-Haas; 129.68

We're in!!

Thank that schmuck who passed a takeout double and went for 570 on the last hand, thereby giving you a half board (2.08) ...

[mtvesuvius]

jchiu, on May 17 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

mtvesuvius, on May 17 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

Final standings in the USBF Trials for Turkey:

1. Lall-Fournier; 171.76
2. Meckstroth-Dwyer; 168.66
3. Fay-Chiu; 156.39
4. Hudson-Marriott; 155.93
5. Lien-Brescoll; 155.56
6. Kaplan-Shunta; 148.98
7. Lieberman-Asarina; 148.14
8. Asbury-Delfs; 147.73
9. Wolkowitz-Zoogman; 146.16
10. Glickman-Katz; 145.46
11. Guo-Price; 136.66
12. Haas-Haas; 129.68

We're in!!

Thank that schmuck who passed a takeout double and went for 570 on the last hand, thereby giving you a half board (2.08) ...

Yes Jason, thank you!

It made up for my stupid screw up on the previous few boards, and we both still Qed...

[mathmike]

How is the combined score calculated?

Also, I was told I was 8th (not 7th) and the 9th place pair was told they were 7th. So is this more up-to-date?

[kfay]

mtvesuvius, on May 17 2009, 04:37 PM, said:

jchiu, on May 17 2009, 04:34 PM, said:

mtvesuvius, on May 17 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

Final standings in the USBF Trials for Turkey:

1. Lall-Fournier; 171.76
2. Meckstroth-Dwyer; 168.66
3. Fay-Chiu; 156.39
4. Hudson-Marriott; 155.93
5. Lien-Brescoll; 155.56
6. Kaplan-Shunta; 148.98
7. Lieberman-Asarina; 148.14
8. Asbury-Delfs; 147.73
9. Wolkowitz-Zoogman; 146.16
10. Glickman-Katz; 145.46
11. Guo-Price; 136.66
12. Haas-Haas; 129.68

We're in!!

Thank that schmuck who passed a takeout double and went for 570 on the last hand, thereby giving you a half board (2.08) ...

Yes Jason, thank you!

It made up for my stupid screw up on the previous few boards, and we both still Qed...

Dbl is penalty. My fault.

[JanM]

mathmike, on May 17 2009, 04:55 PM, said:

How is the combined score calculated?

Also, I was told I was 8th (not 7th) and the 9th place pair was told they were 7th. So is this more up-to-date?

The combined score was calculated as a play through event. There were 27 board sessions on Saturday and 24 on Sunday, so the Sunday score was factored down to account for there being fewer boards. So the total score was Saturday score (2 session total) + 8/9 of Sunday score. Given your BBO name, you'll probably be amused by the fact that the reason you were originally told the wrong order was because there was some confusion about how to calculate the total (I'd like to blame it on Excel, but in fact it was GIGO), which resulted in the first list counting the Saturday scores double.

[inquiry]

Congratulations to the juniors who qualified and the others who played some exciting bridge. I kibitzed all 54 hands on Saturday, and I used the homebaseclub posting of Sunday’s 24 hands to take a look at all the ones on Sunday.

Very exciting stuff. Well done.

I am looking forward to perhaps kibitzing some of the team practices on BBO. Good luck in Turkey.