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Posted 2009-September-02, 17:41

Scoring: MP


1D-----1H
3C-----3D
3NT

3 of S (4th best you dont have the 2.)

won in hand cash the k of H that is ducked.

Now what is your plan ? You are in a medium club field.
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Posted 2009-September-02, 17:44

Q and see if the 10 is doubleton
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Posted 2009-September-02, 18:24

Fluffy, on Sep 3 2009, 06:44 AM, said:

Q and see if the 10 is doubleton

Me too.
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Posted 2009-September-03, 02:41

The_Hog, on Sep 2 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

Fluffy, on Sep 3 2009, 06:44 AM, said:

Q and see if the 10 is doubleton

Me too.

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Posted 2009-September-03, 03:30

4 me
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Posted 2009-September-03, 04:29

Say that someone wins K and plays back another spade. Presumably we win in hand, because we don't yet know what we want to use dummy's spade entry for. Then we cash A, but the ten doesn't drop. We cash some more diamonds, but nobody throws K, and LHO keeps all his spades. We play a spade to dummy, and RHO shows out. We play a club, and ...?

Q gains when diamonds are specifically 10x-Kxx (if LHO has Kxx, he just ducks). That's about 10% of the time. Q loses when K is singleton (6%), and also whenever spades are 5-2 and I misguess the club.

If I think LHO isn't up to baring K, Q is best. Against a good LHO, however, I'd lead A and then Q.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-September-03, 05:19

The OP said medium club field Andy, my club doesn't even consider ducking Q, I have no problem believing yours is better.
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Posted 2009-September-03, 05:40

Ive played the J of D. RHO won and returned a S won in Hand. At this point ive tried a low D And LHO played low without any worry. I was tempted to play the 7 and probably should but played the 9. It was hard to lose 2 tricks to bare KT onside.

Ive manged to make 3 but for a bottom.
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Posted 2009-September-03, 12:52

benlessard, on Sep 3 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

Ive played the J of D. RHO won and returned a S won in Hand. At this point ive tried a low D And LHO played low without any worry. I was tempted to play the 7 and probably should but played the 9. It was hard to lose 2 tricks to bare KT onside.

Ive manged to make 3 but for a bottom.

I admire your courage: If I'd played the hand like that, I wouldn't have published it on the Internet. I can't see how your line can ever gain over trying to find 10 doubleton.

Suppose that LHO holds 10xx or 10x. Presumbly he'll win the second diamond and clear the spades. If you play a heart now and LHO wins it, he'll have at least one spade to cash, so you make at most nine tricks.

If RHO wins the heart, he'll play a club, attacking your communications. To make ten tricks now, you'll have to take a club finesse. If you were going to do that, you might just as well have played diamonds from the top.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-September-03, 20:32

I forgot to mention a very important point RHO hesitated when ive played the K of H.

Even with "feeling" the K is in RHO Im not proud of my line. I was seriously hoping that RHO would continue spades without too much thinking, or that LHO would give me a sign for the D. (Playing the T or hesitating from Txx)

At the end I didnt trust LHO diamond quick play and so i was punish by changing plan in the middle of a hand without good reason.

I also wondering if you have no intention of playing low D toward dummy than is playing the A of D (instead of a Q or J) at trick 2 a better play ?


Another pearl ive done today in a v weak field.

W vs R MP im the dealer.

xxx
AKx
AQxxx
AT

1D------(2C)--------P--------(P)
X--------(P)---------2H-------(3C)
X--------(P)---------3D-------(4C)
X

My K of H didnt cash.

partner bid 3D with

xx
Qxxxxx
xxxx
x

I would have bid 3H with his hand but in any case its not that surprising one of my trick get ruffed even in a very weak field
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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