[MarkDean]

Scoring: MP

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1♦ - (1♠) - Pass - (2♦)
2♥ - (Pass) - 3♦ - (3♠)
5♦ - (Pass) - ?

Do you agree with the first two rounds?
What now?

[pooltuna]

MarkDean, on Sep 6 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

Dealer: North Vul: Both Scoring: MP

♠ 9854 ♥ Q9 ♦ Q6 ♣ AQT96

1♦ - (1♠) - Pass - (2♦)
2♥ - (Pass) - 3♦ - (3♠)
5♦ - (Pass) - ?

Do you agree with the first two rounds?
What now?

I bid 6♦ as I have 4 useful cards partner has no right to expect

[fromageGB]

Agree with the 6♦, but don't like the initial pass. 2♣ is simple and would definitely be my bid. I play it as non forcing, but even if it is forcing, I don't mind partner rebidding 2♦.

[gnasher]

I'd have bid 2♣ over 1♠.

[cherdanno]

I disagree with pass. I disagree with 3♦ - partner is typically 6-4 for his bidding, and we have a great hand for that. I would bid 4♦.
Now I would like to abstain, but I am closer to a grand try with 6♣ than to passing 5♦ - which goes to show that our previous bidding was too little. In fact, yes I would bid 6♣.

[Cascade]

Hate the previous bidding.

I have bid as if I have a yarborough.

[MFA]

Our bidding so far is extremely bad. What has partner done to us, since we don't respect his bidding, not even his opening bid?

Now we have a grand slam try. 6♣ to show the ace.

[kenrexford]

There is no grand try to show both red Queens and the Ace of clubs. You can't have that. So, the only "grand try" is 7♦.

[Jlall]

6C is obvious if I'm so terrible that I have bid this way to start with.

[Codo]

What to do now? I have showed a hand with no tricks so far on every opportunity. This was wrong, but I have no idea how to recover.

I think Arend, Justin et all deserve a lol for 6 Club. Yes the hand is worth a grand slam try. But how can you interprete a bid from someone as a GSF who had showed a yarb so far at every opportunity?

[kenrexford]

Codo, on Sep 7 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

What to do now? I have showed a hand with no tricks so far on every opportunity. This was wrong, but I have no idea how to recover.

I think Arend, Justin et all deserve a lol for 6 Club. Yes the hand is worth a grand slam try. But how can you interprete a bid from someone as a GSF who had showed a yarb so far at every opportunity?

In fairness, Justin came close to an explanation. The "terrible" comment suggests that 6♣ would be a partnership-specific treatment, showing first-round control of clubs, two other cards, and a complete admission of being an idiot in the prior auction. If that would be so understood, from past experience, then the call is perfect.

Others hinted at that implicit agreement, as well.

[pooltuna]

kenrexford, on Sep 7 2009, 09:24 AM, said:

Codo, on Sep 7 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

What to do now? I have showed a hand with no tricks so far on every opportunity. This was wrong, but I have no idea how to recover.

I think Arend, Justin et all deserve a lol for 6 Club. Yes the hand is worth a grand slam try. But how can you interprete a bid from someone as a GSF who had showed a yarb so far at every opportunity?

In fairness, Justin came close to an explanation. The "terrible" comment suggests that 6♣ would be a partnership-specific treatment, showing first-round control of clubs, two other cards, and a complete admission of being an idiot in the prior auction. If that would be so understood, from past experience, then the call is perfect.

Others hinted at that implicit agreement, as well.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

No, I ont agree with your first two rounds, I would have bid 2C.
I dont care, if you play it as forcing / nonforcing, I have both.
I dont agree with 3D as well, this is basically only a weak preference,
3D showes nothing.

Now after I showed nothing, because I liked it to play hide and seek
with partner I have to guess, if I have to bid 6D or not.
I certainly have the values for the bid, even the values to try for seven,
but it is a pure guess, if they have two cashing tricks or not.

I would pass.
Maybe passing now is of similar quality as my bidding the rounds
before, that would mean I am consistent.
In the end, if I did bid the two rounds as I did, why should may IQ suddenly
have gone through the sky?

With kind regards
Marlowe

[MattieShoe]

If partner opened 1♦, then he has less than what, 22 points? HCP aren't there at least. I don't have a stopper in opponents suit... I'd expect partner to have a long suit but be shy on points, but might as well play 5 if you're going to play 4, so preempt opponents with 5♦. They could have AK♠ right off the top. I'd pass. But then again, I'm a scaredy cat with borderline stuff like this.

Edit: missed a Q when I looked at the hand initially. Thought there was only 8HCP. Couldn't figure out why everybody was recommending 2♣ with that hand, but makes sense with that extra queen. :-)

I'd have never thought of 6♣ but that sounds like a good bid given the two extra points :-)

[aguahombre]

as JLAL said, 6C...but as least a little sympathy for the previous bidding. IF i couldnt't bring myself to bid 2C on the first round, this is where I am at.....6C obvious, now

[MarkDean]

I still would pass first round, but I agree 3♦ was too timid - I was overly influenced by the lack of a third diamond.

Anyways, I was just doing a sanity check. I bid 6♦, thinking perhaps I should be trying for a grand. Down 1. Partner had

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