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After pass from left side, your partner (one of the best players in the country) opens 1 club in "simple standard american" (this is individual championship), passed to you. MPs, both sides nonvulnerable, what is your reaction?
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to bid or to pass? bidding with no values
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Posted 2009-December-06, 05:17
Pass. Too many bad things can happen if I bid. I particularly don't want to hear partner rebid 2NT or 3♣, and if the opponents are going to bid I don't want partner to overcompete.
Knowing that partner is a better player than the rest of the field makes it even clearer to do that. If he plays in 1♣, other players will too, so I can hope that his superior card-play will win some matchpoints.
Knowing that partner is a better player than the rest of the field makes it even clearer to do that. If he plays in 1♣, other players will too, so I can hope that his superior card-play will win some matchpoints.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-December-06, 07:48
jahol, on Dec 6 2009, 04:50 AM, said:
You have
xx---Qxxx---xxxxxx---x.
After pass from left side, your partner (one of the best players in the country) opens 1 club in "simple standard american" (this is individual championship), passed to you. MPs, both sides nonvulnerable, what is your reaction?
xx---Qxxx---xxxxxx---x.
After pass from left side, your partner (one of the best players in the country) opens 1 club in "simple standard american" (this is individual championship), passed to you. MPs, both sides nonvulnerable, what is your reaction?
my reaction is I hope partner has enough ♣s to make 1♣ I am not moving unless an X comes around to me
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Pass?
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Posted 2009-December-06, 12:00
Pooltuna has it right, I think. Except I suspect partner has the 19 pt balanced hand and 1NT by him will come back around to me after a balance. But either way I will end up running to my alleged suit (unless pard rebids clubs or 1H).
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Posted 2009-December-06, 12:18
WJS 2D.
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dake50, on Dec 6 2009, 11:18 AM, said:
WJS 2D.
even if WJS were available, I don't want to obstruct the opps from competing on this hand.
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Posted 2009-December-06, 13:36
jahol, on Dec 6 2009, 04:50 AM, said:
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I PASS and he can be the devil himself.
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Posted 2009-December-08, 01:57
Okay, I passed, as well... and my partner played 1 club. But he was not very happy having
Axxx---Axxx---K---AQxx.
The contract is four down theoretically and since the defence did not made any mistake, it was the final result, close to zero for our line. One heart and one diamond can be made, one spade is two down and even one NT is better contract (three down). Having the cards of my partner and finishing four down.. would you still be able to say... "Your pass was okay, partner"? :-)
Axxx---Axxx---K---AQxx.
The contract is four down theoretically and since the defence did not made any mistake, it was the final result, close to zero for our line. One heart and one diamond can be made, one spade is two down and even one NT is better contract (three down). Having the cards of my partner and finishing four down.. would you still be able to say... "Your pass was okay, partner"? :-)
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Posted 2009-December-08, 02:09
gnasher, on Dec 6 2009, 06:17 AM, said:
Pass. Too many bad things can happen if I bid. I particularly don't want to hear partner rebid 2NT or 3♣, and if the opponents are going to bid I don't want partner to overcompete.
What's wrong with a 2N rebid? I'd love to hear that, we get to play in 3D rather than 1C or defending! Agree that 3C and especially 2S would really suck though.
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Posted 2009-December-08, 04:18
Jlall, on Dec 8 2009, 09:09 AM, said:
What's wrong with a 2N rebid? I'd love to hear that, we get to play in 3D rather than 1C or defending! Agree that 3C and especially 2S would really suck though.
The original poster said we're playing "simple standard american". Does that include a way to stop in 3♦?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-December-08, 04:29
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and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-December-08, 06:50
jahol, on Dec 8 2009, 02:57 AM, said:
Axxx---Axxx---K---AQxx.
$H!T happens
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Posted 2009-December-08, 11:09
gnasher, on Dec 8 2009, 05:18 AM, said:
Jlall, on Dec 8 2009, 09:09 AM, said:
What's wrong with a 2N rebid? I'd love to hear that, we get to play in 3D rather than 1C or defending! Agree that 3C and especially 2S would really suck though.
The original poster said we're playing "simple standard american". Does that include a way to stop in 3♦?
I don't know, I guess not. What is standard american in this auction, everything nat forcing?
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Posted 2009-December-08, 11:28
jahol, on Dec 6 2009, 04:50 AM, said:
You have
xx---Qxxx---xxxxxx---x.
After pass from left side, your partner (one of the best players in the country) opens 1 club in "simple standard american" (this is individual championship), passed to you. MPs, both sides nonvulnerable, what is your reaction?
xx---Qxxx---xxxxxx---x.
After pass from left side, your partner (one of the best players in the country) opens 1 club in "simple standard american" (this is individual championship), passed to you. MPs, both sides nonvulnerable, what is your reaction?
Sucky system, sucky result. I don't pass. I don't like automatically losing to all the pairs playing anything sensible...
If I hear 3C then at least we have more clubs than them. If I hear 2S at least it's major partscore and i have ruffing value. Anything else i can just pass and be sure we are in better spot than 1C.
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