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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2010-November-13, 19:37


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Posted 2010-November-13, 22:12

4♠. I don't love my suits, but I'll get both in this way.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 11:25

Same as Phil... classic Leaping Michaels = strong, both minors.
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Posted 2010-November-14, 14:49

Ick. I hate this hand. I wonder if there's a case for a simple 3 diamond overcall, to leave 3nt in the frame
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Posted 2010-November-14, 19:40

I agree with 3D. The suits are not good enough for a bid showing both minors.
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Posted 2010-November-15, 08:05

I play 3♠ for minors but if I didn't I think I'd jsut bid 4NT, didn't know 4♠ was part of leaping michaels
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Posted 2010-November-16, 08:15

im voting for 3c for the following reasons

1. 3d risks losing the club suit a ton more than 3c risks losing the dia suit.
2. there isnt a huge difference btn my !C and !D suit and if 3c is X its a ton easier to
go to 3d.
3. suits not good enough for forcing to 5 level AND leaping michaels eliminates the
possibility of playing a vastly superior 3n.
4. while i do not recommend bidding NT with Ax (Axx ok) there is no reason we cannot
still back into 3n via say 3c 3h 3s 3n (yes it works with !D as well that way but
see 1/2 above).
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Posted 2010-November-16, 08:48

4NT, same distribution as 4♠ but weaker. 4♠ for me is a hand that can make 5m pretty much on it's own, which is not what we have...
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Posted 2010-November-16, 09:12

View Postcnszsun, on 2010-November-13, 19:37, said:





3d
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Posted 2010-November-16, 20:29

View PostFree, on 2010-November-16, 08:48, said:

4NT, same distribution as 4♠ but weaker. 4♠ for me is a hand that can make 5m pretty much on it's own, which is not what we have...


I thought playing Roman Jumps or Leaping Michaels that 4NT was ace asking.
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Posted 2010-November-17, 00:16

View Postdboxley, on 2010-November-16, 20:29, said:

I thought playing Roman Jumps or Leaping Michaels that 4NT was ace asking.


There is a parallel universe where 4NT is never ace-asking unless we have found a fit. You should check it out some day. ;)
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Posted 2010-November-17, 02:54

View Postcnszsun, on 2010-November-13, 19:37, said:




It will depend on partnership style/agreements of the weak 2s, but, without agreements:

at equal vulnerability: 4S
Vul vs non vul : 4S
non vul vs vul: 2NT
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Posted 2010-November-17, 02:56

Sorry, got it wrong, not P bids 2S, but my RHO...:o :o :o
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Posted 2010-November-17, 03:07

3♦
and over P's likely 3♥♥, 3NT or 4♣
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Posted 2010-November-17, 03:40

View Postdboxley, on 2010-November-16, 20:29, said:

I thought playing Roman Jumps or Leaping Michaels that 4NT was ace asking.

You are correct, it was ace asking, it's not anymore... B)
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