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Another botched slam hand

#1 User is offline   fuburules3 

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Posted 2011-January-09, 23:15

We are playing 2/1, but have some trouble with precise meanings of all the bids

In the auction

1-P-2-P
2-P- ?,

what do the bids of 3 versus 4 show?

Suppose the auction is

1-P-2-P
2-P-3- P
3

what does 3 show? Is it showing extra distribution or a cue? After 3, what are responder's options?
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Posted 2011-January-09, 23:35

3h=mild slam try in h
3s=cue.
your options are:
1) cue
2) rkc
3)sigh off in h./
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Posted 2011-January-09, 23:32

The classical meaning of the first one is probably fast arrival, i.e. any minimum with four hearts. But I don't like doing that when partner is unlimited and would prefer it to show values concentrated in the red suits, e.g. xx KQxx AKJxx xx.

In the second one, I think anything above three of the agreed major is a cue bid. If you agree trumps at the two level you can show shape or values though.
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Posted 2011-January-10, 13:56

View Postmike777, on 2011-January-09, 23:35, said:

1) cue
2) rkc
3)sigh off in h./


Do you play that option 3 denies a club/diamond control or can a hand that is not slam interested (but may have a cue) bid 4 hearts?
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Posted 2011-January-11, 05:34

View Postfuburules3, on 2011-January-10, 13:56, said:

Do you play that option 3 denies a club/diamond control or can a hand that is not slam interested (but may have a cue) bid 4 hearts?


Without further discussion I would not say it absolutely denies a cue. But there is a good tool for sorting this out: Serious 3NT. Playing that, a cue would show just a control, but no slam interest, whereas with slam interest, responder bids 3NT. In this context, 4 would deny a club or diamond control.
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