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655321, on 2011-January-10, 07:29, said:
2) I don't know what the rules are about promising rebids, but to me this auction almost doesn't exist. With enough shape and values to bid 2♣ then 2♠ over partner's third seat opening, surely the hand was worth opening in the first place. But I don't think that it follows that responder is therefore showing a weak hand with 4-6 in the black suits, I would still just respond 1♠ with that hand.
helene_t, on 2011-January-12, 03:14, said:
Yeah I think 2♠ must be a raise of diamonds, showing a spade stopper on the way. With clubs and spades a passed hand would always bid spades first i think. 2♠ by an unpassed hand would be a GF so it must have a different meaning here.
Oh well, maybe something involving a stiff ♦K that upgrades to opening strength once partner shows diamonds .... I suppose that that is how a random partner might mean it. But I'd rather play it as a diamond raise.
Oh well, maybe something involving a stiff ♦K that upgrades to opening strength once partner shows diamonds .... I suppose that that is how a random partner might mean it. But I'd rather play it as a diamond raise.
You guys are too complicated for me. I would just take it as a 5116 or 4126 or similar, just below opening strength (whatever that means for you). It's not like 2♦ shows a dead minimum, it can be quite wide-ranging and may contain 4-card majors.