[gwnn]

aguahombre, on 2011-August-30, 10:03, said:

What do you think about x=4-5 in major and minor and just bidding 2M natural with the other way? Just a thought; maybe a not-so-good thought.

It's not bad, I don't mind it. Your way has advantages (because you get in your major which might get lost if they bid a minor over x or something) but also disadvantages (my way allows me to x on 5 bad major+4 minor and bid 2M on 5 good major+4 minor, furthermore I find hearts when you bid 2S and your partner doesn't know what to do on his 1624). Of course neither method is yours or mine, it's just a short way of referring to them. You might have noticed that "my" paranthesis is longer than "yours", that just goes to show that in my opinion, my method is slightly better than yours.

[Aberlour10]

wyman, on 2011-August-30, 10:05, said:

Very sorry if I misunderstood. I thought OP was asking when to make a penalty double of 1N

This is correct. It was my primarily thought. Sorry if my wording led to misunderstandings among the posters.
Anyway, to read about other using of the dbl is very interesting too.

[aguahombre]

Cool answer to my question, Gwnn. Only one flaw: not MY method, just my question.
I didn't choose to mention my method, which doesn't belong in this forum (or maybe on this planet) anyway.

[gwnn]

aguahombre, I wrote a 3 line post and you read at most 2.5 of it.

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Of course neither method is yours or mine, it's just a short way of referring to them.

[aguahombre]

oops

[Porreankel]

Hmmmm.

In my honest oppinion the most important thing about your defence on 1NT - is that you have one.
Im pretty sure all conventions have their benefits and visa versa.

So which one to choose ?

I think you have to decide if you want to play it "safe" like multi or others - where you have no doubt of length etc.
Or you can actually use a convention like DONT - which is little more uncertain, but it lets you bid it more often (making your opp's frustrated more often)

I do not have the golden truth here - but I can tell you that I have played both capp, Landy, Multi, DONT during the years - and since I like being agressive I still like DONT :-)



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[mgoetze]

Porreankel, on 2011-August-30, 15:59, said:

In my honest oppinion the most important thing about your defence on 1NT - is that you have one.

I agree.

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Im pretty sure all conventions have their benefits and visa versa.

Some just have very few benefits and a lot of drawbacks.

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Or you can actually use a convention like DONT - which is little more uncertain, but it lets you bid it more often (making your opp's frustrated more often)

Please tell me just one hand which you can bid with DONT but not with Woolsey. Unless, of course, you regularly bid DONT on 4-4 shapes, which is fine if it works for you but I'm not interested in sticking my neck out quite that much.

[wyman]

mgoetze, on 2011-August-31, 01:11, said:

Please tell me just one hand which you can bid with DONT but not with Woolsey.

all of them, I believe, in acbl-land

[mgoetze]

wyman, on 2011-August-31, 05:11, said:

all of them, I believe, in acbl-land

(a) Not all of ACBL-Land;
(b) I couldn't care less.

[wyman]

mgoetze, on 2011-August-31, 13:01, said:

(a) Not all of ACBL-Land;
(b) I couldn't care less.

My point was just that Woolsey is mid-chart iirc, so B/I's in acbl-land looking to adopt a defense might wish to consider an alternate one.

Sorry for the diversion. Carry on.

[gwnn]

If you like DONT, you should play Brozel instead:

x=one suited
2c=c+h
2d=d+h
2h=h+s
2s=s+m

or Lionel
x=spades+another
2c=c+h
2d=d+h
2h/s=natural

Both of these are obviously better than DONT and they are legal anywhere dont would be I think.