At the table S bid 3NT and was left there. However, 6♦ would've been a better spot, not the least of which because 7♦ also makes
How to find this slam?
#1
Posted 2012-January-23, 07:54
At the table S bid 3NT and was left there. However, 6♦ would've been a better spot, not the least of which because 7♦ also makes
#2
Posted 2012-January-23, 08:09
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#3
Posted 2012-January-23, 08:22
The trick here is to differentiate from "I have 16 points with minors and stopper" where 3NT is probably the best bid at MPs, from the real hand wich is more like "I have 3 aces and only 3.5 losers if partner has singleton spade!".
What I mean is: south´s hand ain´t a simple 16 count, its a supper hand for slam.
#4
Posted 2012-January-23, 10:07
Fluffy, on 2012-January-23, 08:22, said:
The trick here is to differentiate from "I have 16 points with minors and stopper" where 3NT is probably the best bid at MPs, from the real hand wich is more like "I have 3 aces and only 3.5 losers if partner has singleton spade!".
What I mean is: south´s hand ain´t a simple 16 count, its a supper hand for slam.
Yup, slam is perfectly good opposite Axxxx, xxxxx in the reds and any 3 small black cards, requiring only a 2-1 trump break.
1♥-(3♠)-X-4♦- followed by keycard showing 2+Q and you're bidding at least 6.
#5
Posted 2012-January-23, 10:12
#6
Posted 2012-January-23, 10:36
EDIT I failed to see that it was MP, so double is less desirable although I won't mind much if it is passed and we defend.
#7
Posted 2012-January-23, 13:06
To those that like double - its MPs, and our ♠T, not to mention A-3rd are nice cards for 3N. If we double we have given up on any number of NT under 6 without detailed agreements. I think its way more likely that 430 or 460 is available.
Furthermore, what makes the doublers think that we are going to have such a smooth ride? If partner rebids 4♥, which seems like a likely occurrence with partner's short hearts and our short spades, I'm pretty sick, since its doubtful hearts outscores NT. If partner bids 4m, I'm not convinced 6m is there, but I would probably bid it since we are getting very few matchpoints for 5m. I'd start with 4♠, and let things run their course.
If I can bid a natural 4N (which I can in one partnership) over 4♥, then I can live with a double.
By the way, I think North might have bid 4♦ over 3N.
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#8
Posted 2012-January-23, 14:49
So East opens 3S and then South goes ugh... now what. Probably 3NT, ending the auction. If by some chance he picks 4D (planning to play 5m) then we might be onto something. 4H from North, 5C from South, 6D from North is my guess, but that feels more like a stumble-around-in-the-dark auction to me.
Moral is, don't be hard on yourself/ves for missing a 26pt slam when opps pre-empt heavily - it's never easy.
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#9
Posted 2012-January-23, 15:31
A lot of people reading this post are going to look for the way they'd reach their 10 card fit, and obviously double, on this hand, works great.
But what happens when opener is 2533 or 1633 or a myriad of other shapes lacking a 4 card minor?
And what if he bids 4♣? This hand is MUCH better when he bids 4♦ than when he bids 4♣...are we really going to settle for 5♣ or drive to slam?
Put another way.....if we knew partner was bidding almost anything except pass (which has to be damn near impossible on the auction and our spade holding) or diamonds, we'd want to rewind the bidding to avoid the negative double. Since we 'know' that he is bidding diamonds, it is very difficult to be objective.
#10
Posted 2012-January-24, 01:15
(Also, more Bridgestatically, I thought slam was remote and 3NT is a very sweet spot in MPs)
#11
Posted 2012-January-25, 05:44
At imps, 3 NT will be too lazy, but at mps, I would bet , that this will result in much better scores then doubling.
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#12
Posted 2012-January-25, 06:03
#13
Posted 2012-January-25, 06:21
ahydra, on 2012-January-23, 14:49, said:
At favourable I don't think this is even close to a pass. 10 hcp in your long suits, extra distribution and if disaster befalls us it will usually only cost a few 50s. Sure we can get doubled but this is rare. (And they might still have a game.)
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#14
Posted 2012-January-26, 01:32
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."