[akhare]

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It's not clear from the hand diagram, but everyone is vul.

[mike777]

prefer 2nt over 2s good/ bad...not natural. direct 3h would be much stronger.

will pass 3s.

[Phil]

Since you are playing a strong club, the negative double shouldn't be some mangy 6 count. Therefore, I think pass by West essentially denies four hearts. East's pass is conservative but not crazy - W could be 3=3=2=5.

[mike777]

another example where if opp bid it makes it harder for the bad guys, south might bid 2s


pass by south helps ew here.

[Mbodell]

I think this one is all on W. W should act over 2♠. I'd like 2nt as a 2-places to play planning to correct clubs to diamonds. Once there is the pass, E needs to pass since W could have a misfitting 10 count, but W with a pretty good 13 should probably act again. But it is easier over 2♠ immediately than over 3♠ in the pass out.

[straube]

I had the West hand. I think I have a clear 3H call. One danger of good/bad 2N is losing hearts after a 3S bid. Partner will understand why a 3D bid by me would show good hearts and not diamonds (I can't have 6 diamonds without a major). Another reason to bid is that my spade holding suggests that partner may have an awkward hand (3 spades) to double in the balancing seat.

East has no bid over 3S. The QJ tight of spades is a major turnoff and the rest of the hand has already been shown with the first negative double. I feel it was a little unlucky for us that 4H was a make but still my bad.

[mike777]

 straube, on 2012-June-24, 00:07, said:

I had the West hand. I think I have a clear 3H call. One danger of good/bad 2N is losing hearts after a 3S bid. Partner will understand why a 3D bid by me would show good hearts and not diamonds (I can't have 6 diamonds without a major). Another reason to bid is that my spade holding suggests that partner may have an awkward hand (3 spades) to double in the balancing seat.

East has no bid over 3S. The QJ tight of spades is a major turnoff and the rest of the hand has already been shown with the first negative double. I feel it was a little unlucky for us that 4H was a make but still my bad.

great hand post....ya I think making 4h is a bit lucky on this auction.
1) think d ruff
2) we have alot of hcp in spades opp bid suit
3) other room did not raise one spade...two.
4) etc




i agree that h suit can be lost in g/b after 3s....ew have minimum hands with spades.

:I had the West hand. I think I have a clear 3H call."


I dont think you had a CLEAR 3h bid
really wish other room south bid 2s.


in any event lose one club one spade...one d and guess h......

a really tough hand, not the reason you lost.


a quick short review seems that all the tough hands went against you......



why do you guys think you lost?

[gszes]

 akhare, on 2012-June-23, 15:46, said:

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It's not clear from the hand diagram, but everyone is vul.

a clear pass over 2s the spade K looks far less valuable and you have essentailly
a balanced minimum type of hand. If p has extra values they can press on.

after N bids 3s E has a real problem this spade QJ look worthless this hand is
is semi balanced. But this hand does have some extras

1 dia fit
a couple of doubletons
a hand that evaluates to around 12 in diamonds (heavily discounting the spade QJ)
and hearts if p has a fit but coulnt act over 2s


I would bid 4d here---Yes we may get too high but we will rarely ever be stolen from.
if p has a heart fit and near top of a minimum we could have great play for 4h and the
difference between going down 1 in 4h vs them making 3s is trivial even if they fail to
make 3s we have to be wrong almost 2/3 of the time before it is a bad decision.

The weaker your parnership opens the more likely you are to have this decision turn
our poorly.

[straube]

The 1D is artificial. I rate to have some diamonds given the auction, but I could have something like 3-3-2-5.

I think I have to fess up to having 4H and bid 3H. Partner had no bid over 3S imo.

[mgoetze]

What does "ostensibly maximal" mean?

[JLOGIC]

Bridge has become too tough if you can't bid 3H with the west hand over 2S.

[akhare]

 mgoetze, on 2012-June-27, 03:18, said:

What does "ostensibly maximal" mean?

Meaning that it's the likely interpretation given that we don't have any explicit agreements for this sequence...

[mgoetze]

 akhare, on 2012-June-27, 08:48, said:

Meaning that it's the likely interpretation given that we don't have any explicit agreements for this sequence...

OK but what interpretation is that? I've never heard of it.