[Phil]

Just watched two friends perpetuate this auction:

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Clearly a few calls should be called into question. Whats primarily responsible for reaching a 4-2 slam?

[mike777]

prefer 5d not 6s.


rest is fine.

[the hog]

Prefer 5C and not X.

[aguahombre]

Don't watch. Too painful.

[gnasher]

North's 6♠ bid.

[mich-b]

If North would double 4♦ , showing a strong balanced hand , and suggesting defending, 5 down would be likely (lead a trump of course).

[mich-b]

deleted (duplicate post).

[Trinidad]

deleted, too early in the morning

[SteveMoe]

Double sees more flexible than 5♣, while 6♠ is wishful thinking. Why can't South be 3=4=1=5? I too like 5♦ after the double to learn more about partner's shape. Bidding 6♣ would be fairly straightforward. I'm curious, was the ♠K onside too?

[ahydra]

Pass over 4D isn't sensible when you have either X or 4NT (depending on agreements etc) to show that hand - then south has an easy 6C bid. Over the pass South should go with 5C. Hard to blame North for interpreting the X as both majors, but still, 6S is silly.

ahydra

[han]

They did better than the Dutch juniors, who, on their way to winning the world championship, bid 7H in a 3-2 fit and went down. At least here one player had spades, but he was actually the guilty one. Partner is under pressure and can have many shapes. 4-6 is maybe a bit exotic, but 2-4-2-5 would be an automatic double. Jumping to 6S is completely clueless.

[billw55]

6♠ .. heheh. Four would be ok, leaving south room to breathe. If system allows, 4NT to play would also work (two opportunities for this).

[kenrexford]

Did it make? I mean, the contract is not hopeless.

[billw55]

kenrexford, on 2012-August-23, 06:19, said:

Did it make? I mean, the contract is not hopeless.

hm interesting .. diamond lead taken, low spade to the queen? Would make a good story for the bar.

[ArtK78]

In my opinion, the pass over 4♦ showed a strong balanced hand. South should bid 5♣ on his 6 card suit.

Once South doubles, North should pass.

Defending 4♦x is not ideal, but it is better than the result obtained at the table.

[Cyberyeti]

mich-b, on 2012-August-23, 00:46, said:

If North would double 4♦ , showing a strong balanced hand , and suggesting defending, 5 down would be likely (lead a trump of course).

Depends on your arrangements and possibly what 2♣ shows, for me, pass over 4♦ is the strong balanced hand and X is takeout. I really dislike the double from the unbalanced hand, you have 6 clubs and 4 hearts, you are not balanced or semi balanced, or any minimum ish 5431 with short diamonds/4414 which is what you say with the double, ie that you don't have somewhere to make a strong suggestion to play.

It is very unlikely that you have <3 spades and most of the time you have 4. That said if N realises that you might have this sort of hand, he can bid 5N pick a slam (he knows you have a max of 1 diamond so you are going to have a fit of sorts), you only really come unstuck opposite a 4414, but even then you might make 6♣ on the 4-3.

[TimG]

Not an auction worth perpetuating, shame on the perpetrators.

[Phil]

billw55, on 2012-August-23, 06:30, said:

hm interesting .. diamond lead taken, low spade to the queen? Would make a good story for the bar.

Sure, for the defender who ducks from Kxxx RHO had K9xxx and wisely did not x.

[Phil]

ArtK78, on 2012-August-23, 07:04, said:

In my opinion, the pass over 4♦ showed a strong balanced hand. South should bid 5♣ on his 6 card suit.

Once South doubles, North should pass.

Defending 4♦x is not ideal, but it is better than the result obtained at the table.

Isn't 4♥ a possible contract from South's perspective?

North is one of my regular partners, but I thought South bid it correctly.

[Phil]

Another question I have: Can really good 4♥ or 4♠ calls be rolled into North's pass? I think I know the answer, but wanted to float it out there anyway.