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What does the double by opener show?
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How do you take this? A double after a raise
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Posted 2012-October-16, 08:07
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
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Posted 2012-October-16, 08:14
Without agreements, the default for a double opposite a raise is penalty but the default for a double opposite a preempt is penalty. Then again, on this auction we have 3♥ or 3♠ available if wanting to make a positive move towards game so not any great need for a conventional double. Sorry, what was the question again?
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Posted 2012-October-16, 08:38
Zelandakh, on 2012-October-16, 08:14, said:
the default for a double opposite a raise is penalty
So, that's why the maximal double is a convention...
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:
Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win
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Posted 2012-October-16, 09:55
I suppose Z is positing a hand for opener like this one:
Ax
Ax
KQJT
xxxxx
A penalty double would be nice to have for this hand, and I can't see why you would need any sort of conventional double here when partner has already described his hand with his 3♣ call.
(Where are all of the major suit cards? Maybe this hand only has 10 cards in each major suit.)
I guess a more realistic hand would be something like this:
AQx
AKx
KQJ
xxxx
If the opps are red and you are white, then you have a good shot at 500 opposite your possible 400 in 3NT.
Ax
Ax
KQJT
xxxxx
A penalty double would be nice to have for this hand, and I can't see why you would need any sort of conventional double here when partner has already described his hand with his 3♣ call.
(Where are all of the major suit cards? Maybe this hand only has 10 cards in each major suit.)
I guess a more realistic hand would be something like this:
AQx
AKx
KQJ
xxxx
If the opps are red and you are white, then you have a good shot at 500 opposite your possible 400 in 3NT.
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Posted 2012-October-16, 09:56
Responder has made a one-shot descriptive bid, so I think the double is penalty.
Even if playing maximal doubles, I doubt they would apply after a preemptive raise.
Even if playing maximal doubles, I doubt they would apply after a preemptive raise.
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Posted 2012-October-16, 22:14
I think someone..... Justin?
said there are 2 general types of doubles.....
takeout
penalty....
I dont get how this one can be takeout..
said there are 2 general types of doubles.....
takeout
penalty....
I dont get how this one can be takeout..
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