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How many hearts? I thought I knew...

Poll: Hearts (31 member(s) have cast votes)

How many hearts do you open?

  1. One Heart (1 votes [3.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.23%

  2. Two Hearts (21 votes [67.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.74%

  3. 3 Hearts (9 votes [29.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.03%

  4. 4 Hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2013-July-03, 18:38

Red vs White, Butler:

♠x
♥AKQ9xx
♦8x
♣T6xx

What do you open?

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2013-July-03, 18:40

2h but HAVE NO issue if you play a lite style that opens 1h.
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Posted 2013-July-03, 19:14

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-July-03, 18:38, said:

Red vs White, Butler: ♠ x ♥ A K Q 9 x x ♦ 8 x ♣ T 6 x x
IMO 2♥ = 10, 1♥ = 8, 3♥ = 6. 4♥ = 4.
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Posted 2013-July-03, 20:01

Why look for a reason not to do the obvious? Oh, wait...maybe a 2H bid should have everyting except hearts.
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Posted 2013-July-03, 20:54

3♥ - this hand is all offense so i'll go for a pre-empt of some variety.

i like a heavy pre-empting style, but with a 6421 shape this is too heavy for 2h even for me, unless i'm second in.
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Posted 2013-July-04, 19:11

I voted 3♥ just because of the vulnerability. I could open 4 w/r.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 05:51

1♥ looks wrong. Between 2♥ and 3♥ is a matter of partnership style.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 07:34

2♥. The strength of the heart suit might prevent the opponents a penalty double of 3♥, but a 3♥ bid at these colors might convince partner to bid 4♥ to make and too often he will, be disappointed. An equally problematic situation with 3♥ is if I buy the contract, all might be lost anyway. The opponents can not make 3NT (PRESUMABLY we can run hearts), and if they can't make 4♠ we have just won the partscore hand but we might easily go down two vul when there is at most a part-score for them,

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Posted 2013-July-05, 07:58

If this is not a "book" 2♥ bid at unfavorable vul, then the bid does not exist.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 10:31

I told hanoi 3>4>1>2, but I am thinking pass is better than 2, so 3>4>1>pass>2


EDIT: The vulnerability on the problem hanoi gave me was not vul vs vul, here I'd still bid 3♥ rather than 2, but 2 is not ridiculous.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 14:31

2 ♥ gets my vote at red vs. white.

Partner will picture your hand almost exactly as it is. So whatever action partner takes is likely to be right.
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Posted 2013-July-05, 21:08

My mistake. As usual. I meant they're red, we're white.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2013-July-05, 21:12

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-July-05, 21:08, said:

My mistake. As usual. I meant they're red, we're white.

This is why I like the British paradigm: we vulnerable, them not is red; them vulnerable we not is green. Hard to confuse the two. B-)
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Posted 2013-July-06, 09:30

Easy 2♥ unfav. When NV it's more difficult between 1♥ and 3♥.
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Posted 2013-July-08, 05:54

View Postrmnka447, on 2013-July-05, 14:31, said:

2 ♥ gets my vote at red vs. white.

Partner will picture your hand almost exactly as it is. So whatever action partner takes is likely to be right.

The issue is not so much which action partner takes so much as LHO. If bidding 2♥ allows them to find a spade contract that they would not find over 3♥ then it was almost certainly the wrong decision. On the other hand, if it is partner that holds the spades then 2♥ was probably enough.
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Posted 2013-July-08, 13:57

There are two opponents who can hold spades but just one partner, I go for 3...
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