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Is 6H transfer to 6S?

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Posted 2013-July-29, 16:27



West is a solid citizen, but east is much wilder. East is still a pretty good player, though.

IMPs, towards the end of a close first set of 16 boards, with 16 more to go in a knockout. Opps are a dangerous team, but one you expect to beat something like 3 out of 4 matches.
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Posted 2013-July-29, 16:54

1. East may have a void: and if so it is probably in spades. We have a slight inference in that red v white, unless he is gaming us, he thinks he has play for 12 tricks and he didn't use keycard.

2. Even if we have 2 aces, it is unclear that partner will lead spades or diamonds. I think this remote since I expect partner to more often hold something like QJ9(x)(x) in spades than J109(x)(x) in clubs: the suit that, if led, would be a disaster for us.

So it seems to me that passing requires both that East has bid not just wildly but insanely and that partner will find the best lead. On balance, I tend to believe the opps and the last factor, that we need partner to avoid a club lead (he's never leading trump so that isn't a worry), tips me to the 6♠ bid.

Now, if East knows that I am aggressive in these situations, and thinks he needs a swing, he may just have landed a big fish with his lure. However, the conditions of contest suggest that E should be thinking the match is close, and throwing 13 imps away by making a silly red v white blast isn't 'wild', it's insane.
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Posted 2013-July-29, 16:59

I am also a fish, I would bid.
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Posted 2013-July-30, 13:28

I am worried East has a club-hearts two-suiter, in addition to what Mike said.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 04:23

No passers?
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Posted 2013-July-31, 06:10

I'd double against gamblers, but against LOLs I surely bid on. The problem is the good players and you need some table feeling. This is one of those cyclic situations where double is the normal thing, and that's why the don't bid 6♥ often, but then when they bid you should not double, etc.

I am never passing, having to pick something I would go on.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 10:46

Why would doubling ever be better than passing?
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Posted 2013-July-31, 11:06

since I would expect 6s to go down about 3, that is
less than their game bonus, I see no reason why I should
take the risk of them making 6h when I can generally get
them to settle for 500. If they should go to 7h I can at least
lightner for a minor suit lead and hopefully have at least a
5050 chance of setting it.



If I am wrong and they could not make 6h I am losing 500
(or maybe 300) I have to be wrong almost 2 out of 3 times
before the risk is not worth it. Ill take my chances the opps
are generally sane and blasting with a void is better than
gimmicking around when you are slamming.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 13:02

I would not pass either mfa.
I'd also bid 6♠, above repliers explained why already.
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Posted 2013-July-31, 14:37

View PostJLOGIC, on 2013-July-31, 10:46, said:

Why would doubling ever be better than passing?


When East is gambling and we get 500.
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Posted 2013-August-01, 12:45



I chose 6♠ to test the depth of the waters. I also though that E was likely to have a void, which was very likely to be in spades given our length and AK.

Dummy was nice...

A bonus question: W led the ♣5 (low from 2 or 4, middle from 3), which E won with the ♣Q over the T to shift to ♦8. Systematically they play 2nd/4th through declarer. What is you play?
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Posted 2013-August-01, 14:01

low diamond, west is 2803
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Posted 2013-August-01, 14:22

View Postmfa1010, on 2013-August-01, 12:45, said:



I chose 6♠ to test the depth of the waters. I also though that E was likely to have a void, which was very likely to be in spades given our length and AK.

Dummy was nice...

A bonus question: W led the ♣5 (low from 2 or 4, middle from 3), which E won with the ♣Q over the T to shift to ♦8. Systematically they play 2nd/4th through declarer. What is you play?



low dia not so much because lho is 2803 but there are many other holdings where playing low makes sure we lose no more
than 3 tricks associated with the dia suit and some cases where we can hold our loses to 2 dia or even 1.
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