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Major first Vs minor suit length first

Poll: Major first Vs suit length first (32 member(s) have cast votes)

1-Do you think three over two is game force in this case?

  1. Of course (27 votes [84.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.38%

  2. hard to say (5 votes [15.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.62%

Which is your choice ?

  1. Major first,bid 3H. (11 votes [34.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.38%

  2. Minor suit length first,bid 3C. (11 votes [34.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.38%

  3. other (10 votes [31.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.25%

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#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2013-December-31, 03:37



This is a real hand with interesting double-suit distribution,now the problem come out,I guess your next step is to bid 3/3 even though not strong hand holding,or what else?

1- Do you think three over two is game force in this case?

2- Which is your choice ?

1)- If you abide by "Major first" as a general bidding rule,after 2,you should bid 3,you hope to make 4 .
2)- If you abide by "minor suit length first" as a bidding rule,after 2,you should bid 3 then plan to reverse 4, if you do so,I am afraid that your partner will consider you with slammish strongly,perhaps the disaster will be happened.
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Posted 2013-December-31, 10:50

I would open the hand in first chair with 1 for the higher upside and bid 3 here for all the downside to 3 that you stated.

My lho may be raising spades to 3 or 4 or partner may have pump protection that would make many 5-2 fits playable too. ie. after 3 - 3nt from pard I'm bidding 4 and liking my chances if pard bids 4 on a doubleton honor.

I see a vote for other, probably a negative double but you are screwed if lho raises after that.
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Posted 2013-December-31, 10:56

Double and double - or double and 4NT over 4 undoubled. If I bid 3, I'm sort of committed to bidding 5 after 4-p-p anyway, so why not get both suits in (minus a couple of cards) at the 2 level?
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Posted 2014-January-01, 19:40

I would like negtive double,that's mean other two suits--heart and club.
Partner choice one suit,or bid diamond again.
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Posted 2014-January-04, 19:41

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at the very least we get across the idea of having the rounded suits. If one considers this

to be an opening bid (not me) than you have little reason to avoid bidding 3h (most likely

game) which chews up a lot of space in a potential misfit situation. Starting with x if p were to bid 3d

you can bid 4c which at least will show the long clubs and short diamonds. The 4c bid will allow p to

back into 4h with 3 card support while preserving all possible contracts.



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Posted 2014-January-04, 21:12

View Postlycier, on 2013-December-31, 03:37, said:

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This is a real hand with interesting double-suit distribution,now the problem come out,I guess your next step is to bid 3/3 even though not strong hand holding,or what else?
1- Do you think three over two is game force in this case?
2- Which is your choice ?
1)- If you abide by "Major first" as a general bidding rule,after 2,you should bid 3,you hope to make 4 .
2)- If you abide by "minor suit length first" as a bidding rule,after 2,you should bid 3 then plan to reverse 4, if you do so,I am afraid that your partner will consider you with slammish strongly,perhaps the disaster will be happened.
IMO Double = 10, 3 = 8, 3 = 6. Intending to bid 4 later.
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Posted 2014-January-06, 13:26

I dunno what I'd do but double is not even on the list
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Posted 2014-January-07, 14:18

View Postkuhchung, on 2014-January-06, 13:26, said:

I dunno what I'd do but double is not even on the list

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Posted 2014-January-07, 15:34

3 then then . I'm game forcing, and I'm hoping partner bids 3 over 3, but even if he doesn't, partner should get the picture when I intruduce hearts at the 4 level.
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