[mr1303]

Ax
A
A
AK9876543

Thoughts here?

If you open 2C it goes 2S X (scattered values) to you.

[ggwhiz]

All I can think is to arrange to KC on clubs and then ask for the queen, head for 6nt if I don't find it and 7 if I do.

[CSGibson]

2♣ then 3♣

[TWO4BRIDGE]

All you need is for partner to hold 1 card ♣ and any outside K for an odds-on 13 tricks .
( It's almost a 2-loser hand ) .

Just open 4NT, if it is ace-asking, then 5NT .
If he shows a K, then 7NT.

EDIT See post # 11 ...

[blackshoe]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-January-04, 12:25, said:

All you need is for partner to hold 1 card ♣ and any outside K for an odds-on 13 tricks .
( It's almost a 2-loser hand ) .

Just open 4NT, if it is ace-asking, then 5NT .
If he shows a K, then 7NT.

And if an opening 4NT is not ace asking?

[1eyedjack]

TWO4BRIDGE, on 2014-January-04, 12:25, said:

Just open 4NT, if it is ace-asking, then 5NT .
If he shows a K, then 7NT.

How are you going to get to partner's red suit King?

Punting 7 might not be so bad. They are going to have to pay close attention to the count to know what to do at trick 12. Your little x of Spades may end up high by mistake.

[wank]

keycard in clubs then 6 or 7nt. if partner has a queen and a king you're good to go. if it's stiff and they lead one that's just unlucky.

[ggwhiz]

1eyedjack, on 2014-January-04, 12:46, said:

How are you going to get to partner's red suit King?

Punting 7 might not be so bad. They are going to have to pay close attention to the count to know what to do at trick 12. Your little x of Spades may end up high by mistake.

I think pard has a king or two for the double of 2♠ but they rate to be red and having even one sit in dummy uncashed means even aunt Dorothy would beat the grand 1/2 the time.

I'm dreaming (nightmare) of finding pard with the ♣Q stiff and watching them lead a club to beat my grand. If it's mp's in an uneven field I expect to score ok for 6nt.

Very cool hand though. Opening 1♣ in a midnight or to create some fun mayhem has appeal.

[awm]

I will open 2♣ and bid a pedestrian 3♣. If partner has three-card support for clubs or queen-doubleton, there is a good chance we can make a grand (partner having a king somewhere, or some finessing position with two club entries). If partner has a worse club holding than this and lacks the spade king (which he seems really unlikely to hold given the overcall) we should probably settle for a small slam. The nice thing about 2♣...3♣ is that it's likely to fetch a raise with three-card support or honor-doubleton, which basically tells me what I need to know.

[jallerton]

mr1303, on 2014-January-04, 11:05, said:

Ax
A
A
AK9876543

Thoughts here?

If you open 2C it goes 2S X (scattered values) to you.

Apparently I need to check the opponents' convention card to see what defence they play to a strong club!

Anyway, I'll open 2♣ then keep bidding my long suit.

[TWO4BRIDGE]

1eyedjack, on 2014-January-04, 12:46, said:

How are you going to get to partner's red suit King?

duhhh ... I thought of that awhile after I posted, but was on the road away from my computer .

[TWO4BRIDGE]

( duplicate post )

[gszes]

2c followed by (hopefully 3c) to try and set clubs as trumps. I do this because I want to

employ a scientific exploration with this hand. Agree to looking for club Q (or club support)

and a side K in order to bid 7n and ready to sign off in 6n if no club support and no club Q.

For once I have the tools to handle this situation and it would be a shame to punt some guess

when there is no reason to do so:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[TWO4BRIDGE]

gszes, on 2014-January-04, 19:29, said:

2c followed by (hopefully 3c) to try and set clubs as trumps. I do this because I want to

employ a scientific exploration with this hand. Agree to looking for club Q (or club support)

and a side K in order to bid 7n and ready to sign off in 6n if no club support and no club Q.

For once I have the tools to handle this situation and it would be a shame to punt some guess

when there is no reason to do so:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I think you have to JUMP to 4C after: 2C - 2D! ... in order to set ♣ as trump :
2C - 2D!
4C ( demanding Ctrl cuebids ; A or K up-the-line; or shortness )
.... - ??
........ 4S would be nice
........ 4D
4H - 4S ( would be nice too )

........ 4H
4NT - 5C ( 0/3 )
5NT - ??
........ 6D/6H ( specific K reply )
........ 6S ( again, would be nice )

[SteveMoe]

6♣
Keep them from finding which of 3 suits to interfere with.
Partner might still move with {cl}Q and a King or 2.

Precision with asking bids makes these hands easy to get right - again assuming opponents stay quiet (they won't).

[1eyedjack]

SteveMoe, on 2014-January-04, 23:37, said:

Precision with asking bids makes these hands easy to get right - again assuming opponents stay quiet (they won't).

So I guess that means that Precision makes these hands hard to get right, then?

[MrAce]

I'd open 6♣. Not only to keep them silent but also this gives me slightly more chance to make my contract, 6 ♣ is likely where we gonna end up anyway, regardless of what we start.

[SteveMoe]

1eyedjack, on 2014-January-05, 04:45, said:

So I guess that means that Precision makes these hands hard to get right, then?

Not necessarily - these type of hands (where power hand needs to find one or 2 specific assets) are tailor-made for Italian Asking Bids.

[1eyedjack]

SteveMoe, on 2014-January-05, 11:46, said:

these type of hands (where power hand needs to find one or 2 specific assets) are tailor-made for Italian Asking Bids.

Which you will not get to use, as you yourself acknowledged:

SteveMoe, on 2014-January-04, 23:37, said:

assuming opponents stay quiet (they won't).

(my emphasis)
Ergo

1eyedjack, on 2014-January-05, 04:45, said:

So I guess that means that Precision makes these hands hard to get right, then?

[mycroft]

well, no harder in theory than in standard. Partner's got a fair number of spades, that's all I know (because I'm not bidding over 4♠)!