[kenberg]

This is matchpoints, white against red, and we are playing equal level conversion so that a double followed by converting 2♣ to 2♦ shows nothing extra.

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You might or might not like my double but I did it. Partner's 1NT was natural.

Here is the question, and I think it comes up fairly often. Can I still bid 2♦ over pard's 1NT w/o showing extra values? I did bid 2♦, partner did pass, and 2♦ makes 2 (I made 3 on a defensive error) while 1NT is easily off 1.

Here is the general question: In a competitive auction where I have doubled and partner has made a natural and limited response of 1NT, it seems to me that a pull to 2 of a suit ought to be pretty much as this is: Pard, I am glad that you have some values and a somewhat flat hand, under those circumstances I think 2 of a suit is a better choice.

This has always seemed right to me and, happily, it seemed right to my partner in this case. But other partners have thought differently. Your views?

If you think I am a little light for my initial double I won't quarrel, but I want to address the general question.

As it happens on this hand, they can easily make 2♥ in their 5-2 fit via four hearts and four clubs. 1 NT our way goes down when they take three hearts and four clubs. Not much of interest in the play.

[helene_t]

If you are playing ELC then I think it is clear that 2♦ doesn't show extras. This is because double is the normal action with your hand.

It is more tricky what 2♣ would have meant (or 2♦ if not playing ELC). I think standard is that is is forcing. At least, it would be without the 1♠ bid and I don't think the 1♠ bid makes much difference unless ops can be trusted not to bid 1♠ on a bust (so that we are less likely to have a strong hand).

[Phil]

Even not playing ELC it's reasonable to play 2m as not showing extras.

[inquiry]

If you had a GOSH (good one suited hand) you would need to jump in the suit over 1NT.