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New Minor Forcing Jump Rebid by Responder: Forcing or Invitational

Poll: Jump Rebid By Responder Using NMF (40 member(s) have cast votes)

(OPPs pass throughout) 1C-1S-1N-3S. 3S is . . .

  1. Invitational with 6 Spades (30 votes [75.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  2. Game Forcing with 6 Spades (9 votes [22.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.50%

  3. Other (explain) (1 votes [2.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

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#21 User is offline   biggerclub 

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Posted 2014-July-09, 11:30

View Postmikeh, on 2014-July-08, 09:15, said:

At the risk of a bit of thread hi-jack, my take on the OP is that jump rebids are usually, these days, played as invitational over opener's 1N rebid, but that in the context of a 2-way new minor structure, all 3 level rebids by responder should be played as narrowly constrained slam tries.

Jump rebid of suit = strong 6+ suit, with slam interest. Weaker 6 card suits, with the same overall values, go through the 2 gf relay first. This allows opener to evaluate better. On the slow route, opener needs a trump card to be encouraged, while on the fast route he can focus more on side suit quality.

Jumpshifts, including into opener's suit, are strong 5=5 or better, with good suits, while the slow route promises similar values overall, but with side cards and weaker suits. Again, this helps opener evaluate.

When playing 2 way, one can lump various invitational hands into the 2 puppet sequences with little cost, and can also put responder's 2N 'raise' to good use as an artificial call (I use it as a puppet to 3, to play or, if I bid again, to show various slam tries with only 4 cards in my first suit and 5+ in partner's, but one can use one's imagination).


The more I reflect on this discussion, the more I am seeing the virtues of 2-way NMF (except I would object to the terminology as 2way Checkback seems a more accurately linguistic formation).
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Posted Yesterday, 17:47

View PostSiegmund, on 2014-July-08, 23:37, said:

The widespread use of invitational jumps appeared to me to come in with the change to 2/1.


Nowadays, I treat 4th suit game forcing, 2/1 game forcing, new minor game forcing and invitational jumps as one package to be used together which sacrifices invitational auctions for the sake of having a game force at the 2-level, and I refuse to play this package when playing matchpoints.

My preferred system is 4th suit forcing 1 round (at the 2-level), 2/1 forcing 1 round (and promises a rebid below 2NT), new minor forcing 1 round, and game forcing jumps, i.e. the old-style Goren system.
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