[rmnka447]

hrothgar, on 2014-September-21, 04:49, said:

I think that its likely that you have at least one 8 card fit, but hardly guaranteed.

For example, I suspect that most folks would open 1NT with the following

♠ KT
♥ KT
♦ AQT6
♣ K7632

That's right!!

"Highly likely" would have been better wording. The fraction of the time one opens 1 NT with 2 doubletons is not very high.

However, showing the shape of the hand may allow opener to bid game with even a minimum, say,

♠ Ax
♥ QJx
♦ Axxx
♣ Axxx

[nige1]

gszes, on 2014-September-09, 11:55, said:

Your hand is ♠ K 7 6 3 2 ♥ K 8 6 4 3 ♦ 8 7 ♣ 6
I realize that is a huge number of choices but every one of those choices came up in sessions over the last month so the topic seems worthy of discussion. This hand is from a session discussing assumed trump fit==ie is it a good idea to assume p will fit one of your 2 majors when you are 55 and therefore count short suit points right away. further system info that might be relevant
1. opener will strain to leave you in 2 of a major if (reasonably able with no game aspirations)
2. A rebid of 2n by opener after any of the above sequences shows no fit and near max
3. super accept is done ONLY with hands that reevaluate to (just short of 18) or better and the number of
trumps is not the only deciding factor.
Naturally I have my personal preference and have guided all mentees to that way of thinking but with so much diversity
of thought maybe the entire community can help with this concept.

IMO 2♦ then 2♠ is best if invitational (which is how gszes plays it).