[Vampyr]

B Meow, on 2015-January-23, 08:47, said:

I am just curious

Would the rebid been
1♦ P 1♥ P
4♦ P ...
Had the opponents not interfered?

This would promise a fourth heart.

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Anyway it is a 4♠ for me.

BTW it is legal to make this as 2♣ opener. Given an extra diamond, many pairs would have a 2♣ opening.

Yes, in the ACBL as many have explained. Of course the OP is in the UK, but who cares about such trifling details.

In any case the fact that it is legal does not mean that it is the right choice.

[Zelandakh]

B Meow, on 2015-January-23, 08:47, said:

BTW it is legal to make this as 2♣ opener. Given an extra diamond, many pairs would have a 2♣ opening.

Legality of (special partnership) agreements is a matter of regulation rather than Law. As such, if an NBO wants to declare that the only legal 2♣ opening is 11-15 with 5+ clubs they can. In such a jurisdiction it would not be legal to agree to open this hand 2♣. You could of course still legally open it 2♣ as a psychic call though.

[Mbodell]

B Meow, on 2015-January-23, 08:47, said:

I am just curious

Would the rebid been
1♦ P 1♥ P
4♦ P ...
Had the opponents not interfered?

As Vampyr suggested that sequence typically is agreed to show exactly 4♥, 6+♦, and enough to force to game opposite a minimum response (so around 18-21 hcp or so).

[B Meow]

Mbodell, on 2015-January-23, 12:37, said:

As Vampyr suggested that sequence typically is agreed to show exactly 4♥, 6+♦, and enough to force to game opposite a minimum response (so around 18-21 hcp or so).

OK I bid invitational 3♦ to 1♥ then.

[Dinarius]

I usually play 2 Club opening as 8 playing tricks, and 2 Diamond opening as the game forcing hand.

So, with just four losers, this is a 2 Club opening for me.

Partner either bids 2 Diamonds (artificial, waiting relay) or 2/3NT.

I then show the Diamonds.

Also, there is almost certainly at least one suit in which Opps can compete. So, the preemptive value of the 2 Club opening is not to be underestimated.

D.

[runewell]

I am making the practical bid of 5D. Partner has promised some values and four hearts and that's all i need for game. Hopefully if partner has extras or prime cards he will raise to 6.

[Lovera]

I agree with 2♣ opening and for this one 4♠ could be the answer to X but i prefer 5♦ that should solve problem on (future) bidding and allow us to play this contract (at the moment) also considering pair vulnerability.(Lovera)

[mike777]

broze, on 2015-January-18, 08:18, said:

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In this and similar spots I have often thought that playing 4C as a relay would be a good idea, but without any special agreements what would you bid?

System is 2/1, 1D is 4+ unless 4=4=3=2. Team match.

I will try 6d.

give pard as little as:

xxx...KJxx...x....Axxxx and we have chances.

don't like opening 2c here. prefer a 3 loser hand with a long minor.

option2=5d now.

[KurtGodel]

mike777, on 2015-March-29, 17:06, said:

I will try 6d.

give pard as little as:

xxx...KJxx...x....Axxxx and we have chances.

don't like opening 2c here. prefer a 3 loser hand with a long minor.

option2=5d now.

I would have thought that the above hand is quite a lot! I will just bid 5♦. It would be nice to ask for a stop, but sadly that is not an option. Any argument for playing x as stop asking here?