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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2015-April-17, 02:32

Just have X show 16+ points with hearts if you want but please don't pass with N. (Yes I know a club could have held them to +180)



W's pass over 1NTx is also a bit weird but it's not the point of this post.
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Posted 2015-April-17, 08:36

Not necessarily.
The explanations of your double can't pop up,it should be a complicated things,I don't know the reasons since I often encounter such a thing.
However I am 100% sure that there are the definitions on your double on Gib CC.
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Posted 2015-April-17, 18:33

The fact that no explanation is given for your double does not mean it's undefined. No explanation is given for your 1, and I'm pretty sure that is defined.
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Posted 2015-April-19, 05:06

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-April-17, 18:33, said:

The fact that no explanation is given for your double does not mean it's undefined. No explanation is given for your 1, and I'm pretty sure that is defined.

Good point. Unfortunately I can't remember what my x was defined as because I just auto-made it. Either way, N should muster enough courage to bid his 6-card minor.
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Posted 2015-April-19, 05:30

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-April-17, 18:33, said:

The fact that no explanation is given for your double does not mean it's undefined. No explanation is given for your 1, and I'm pretty sure that is defined.


Maybe not.
Today I have ever seen on explanations on my bid,so I checked some bids with no explanations because of delayed display.
At last I found that all of my bids can pop up,then I clicked it.
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Posted 2015-April-19, 05:35

P.S.
I remembered I used to play this similar hand with similar bidding sequences,so I know there are explanations on it.
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Posted 2015-April-20, 16:22

Double shows -> -- 2-6 ; 2-6 ; 5-6 ; 2-6 ; 18-19 HCP; 22- total points

At brief glance it need some polishing of shape, but there is explanation of the double.

At least 6 cards in is no longer possible once hearts are no more then 6 as well. :)

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Posted 2015-April-21, 13:43

Georgi's response ignores the main part of the question, and the main point of the hand.

Regardless of the exact description of the double, why is N passing? Opposite any sort of strong balanced hand, N wants to play in 2C, not defend 1NT.
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