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#1 User is offline   PhilG007 

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Posted 2015-May-21, 12:51

I remember long ago I was dealt this welcome stranger:-
♠AKxx
♥AKx
♦ AKx
♣ AKx

I opened 2♣ received the (expected) negative reply of 2♦ I then jumped to 3NT which
was passed out. A small ♥ was led and dummy went down showing a 'bust' Try as I might,all
I could make was 8 tricks (the four AKs) This hand taught me a valuable lesson which has stayed with
me for 25 years. Points aren't the be all and end all. Aces and Kings are the caviar of the hand...but who can live
on caviar alone(?!) :wub:
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Posted 2015-May-21, 13:08

ban the troll
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2015-May-21, 13:26

You're slipping Phil, you forgot the voice of thunder.
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Posted 2015-May-21, 13:58

No, Phil has a point. Obviously, his hand only had 8 sure tricks. He should have opened 2NT. HIs partner could raise to 3NT if he had any sure tricks.
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Posted 2015-May-21, 14:55

There is a key piece of information missing - were we first or second in hand?

In second seat, this is a clear pass against aggressive opponents. Third seat is marked with a bust. Any player worth his salt will surely psyche. At our next go, we can double in a voice of thunder!
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Posted 2015-May-21, 15:08

 billw55, on 2015-May-21, 13:26, said:

You're slipping Phil, you forgot the voice of thunder.

That would have been very difficult to do....it was silent bidding(!) ;)
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Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)


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Posted 2015-May-21, 15:11

 PhilKing, on 2015-May-21, 14:55, said:

There is a key piece of information missing - were we first or second in hand?

In second seat, this is a clear pass against aggressive opponents. Third seat is marked with a bust. Any player worth his salt will surely psyche. At our next go, we can double in a voice of thunder!

I was dealer vulnerable against not MPs And,as I already pointed out to another poster,it was silent bidding... <_<
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Posted 2015-May-21, 15:13

 ArtK78, on 2015-May-21, 13:58, said:

No, Phil has a point. Obviously, his hand only had 8 sure tricks. He should have opened 2NT. HIs partner could raise to 3NT if he had any sure tricks.

Open 2NT???? With 28 hcp???? You cannot be serious man(!) :blink:
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Posted 2015-May-21, 15:15

 eagles123, on 2015-May-21, 13:08, said:

ban the troll

I see you are looking to learn and improve....how about starting with your manners and attitude(?) <_<
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Posted 2015-May-21, 16:27

Partner had xxx Txx Txx Txx, spades were 3-3 and there were QJ doubletons in 2 of the suits therefore making 11 tricks :P
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Posted 2015-May-21, 17:33

Bridge is not a game of "always get to the best making contract". It's a game of possibilities and probabilities. IMO, if you pass or open something other that 2♣ with that 28 point hand, you're psyching. I have no problem with psyching, but it doesn't seem likely to help here, unless your objective is to convince your opponents you're nuts. B-)
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Posted 2015-May-21, 18:03

 ArtK78, on 2015-May-21, 13:58, said:

No, Phil has a point. Obviously, his hand only had 8 sure tricks. He should have opened 2NT. HIs partner could raise to 3NT if he had any sure tricks.


An obvious 1NT bid. This gives you a little wiggle room in case the play gets complicated and you drop a trick.
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Posted 2015-May-21, 18:35

 johnu, on 2015-May-21, 18:03, said:

An obvious 1NT bid. This gives you a little wiggle room in case the play gets complicated and you drop a trick.


True, the flat shape is definitely worthy of a downgrade. 1NT seems right based on past statements. As PhilG007 states, "Points aren't everything"! ;)
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Posted 2015-May-21, 18:56

around here there are partnerships where it would go 2♣-2♦-4N. to each their own.
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Posted 2015-May-21, 19:28

 johnu, on 2015-May-21, 18:03, said:

An obvious 1NT bid. This gives you a little wiggle room in case the play gets complicated and you drop a trick.


Evidently you are playing a weak NT.
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Posted 2015-May-21, 19:43

 Vampyr, on 2015-May-21, 19:28, said:

Evidently you are playing a weak NT.

The weak part is certainly right.
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Posted 2015-May-22, 06:30

 PhilG007, on 2015-May-21, 15:13, said:

Open 2NT???? With 28 hcp???? You cannot be serious man(!) :blink:

Come one Phil, get with the program! This hand is an obvious pass. If we bid anything descriptive we are likely to get too high and run into a chance of going down.

Bridge is a game of avoiding going set at all costs. Beware the voice of thunder, and remember, if you never bid you can't ever go down (!)



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Posted 2015-May-22, 06:33

 PhilG007, on 2015-May-21, 15:13, said:

Open 2NT???? With 28 hcp???? You cannot be serious man(!) :blink:


Read the thread title. You wrote it!
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Posted 2015-May-22, 06:44

I'd just blame partner. What business did he have bidding with a yarborough in the first place.

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Posted 2015-May-22, 07:22

 diana_eva, on 2015-May-22, 06:44, said:

I'd just blame partner. What business did he have bidding with a yarborough in the first place.

Indeed. 2♣ would have been cold!

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