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Posted 2015-September-18, 17:41



Match Points.
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Posted 2015-September-18, 20:46

I would double again NV, but here I feel the risk of -200 is too high. Pass.
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Posted 2015-September-18, 23:45

Is 1D anything special, e.g. 4+?

But I think I pass regardless.
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Posted 2015-September-19, 00:31

object prefer 2d over 1s...


given OP easy pass now
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Posted 2015-September-22, 00:40

This time partner had a perfect 3244 and both 4m and 3♠ were making.
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Posted 2015-September-22, 09:55

View PostFluffy, on 2015-September-22, 00:40, said:

This time partner had a perfect 3244 and both 4m and 3♠ were making.


Yeah but you can hardly have less for your first double. The problem most likely is your partners pass over 3♠. You are (almost) a cinch to have a stiff spade but partners hand could easily be marginal as to whether to bid.
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Posted 2015-September-22, 10:22

P should have a pretty darn good idea what our hand looks like (including the short spade) and if they could not move over 3s trust them. There is really nothing special about this hand other than the short spade, which the bidding has made sort of obvious to partner. Preempts work sometimes.

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Posted 2015-September-22, 10:45

Pass.

The preempt has worked. You can't know what partner's hand is except that partner didn't double to show a really big hand. The concern is -200 at the 4 level or possibly off 2 if not doubled. Your LHO has preempted, but Vulnerable it won't be on some ridiculous holding because they have to be concerned about 3 ♠x off 1 for -200 also.

If you had white pockets, you'd have less of a problem pushing.
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Posted 2015-September-22, 14:16

View Postggwhiz, on 2015-September-22, 09:55, said:

Yeah but you can hardly have less for your first double.


Really? Would you pass with x xxxx xxxx Axxx?
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Posted 2015-September-22, 20:51

View PostJinksy, on 2015-September-22, 14:16, said:

Really? Would you pass with x xxxx xxxx Axxx?

Well, showing 8 points and then turning up with 4 could be a bit disappointing for partner, don't you think? If I were going to double on this I would probably write something like "rarely have my bid in 3rd seat" on my BBO profile first.
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Posted 2015-September-22, 22:53

Found the hand record:


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Posted 2015-September-23, 12:21

View Postmgoetze, on 2015-September-22, 20:51, said:

Well, showing 8 points and then turning up with 4 could be a bit disappointing for partner, don't you think? If I were going to double on this I would probably write something like "rarely have my bid in 3rd seat" on my BBO profile first.


Since when does a negative double at the 1 level with primary support for partner's suit show an 8 count? Justin was doubling at the 2-level the other day on a 5-count without a fit for partner.
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Posted 2015-September-23, 12:33

View PostJinksy, on 2015-September-23, 12:21, said:

Since when does a negative double at the 1 level with primary support for partner's suit show an 8 count? Justin was doubling at the 2-level the other day on a 5-count without a fit for partner.

Well, that's what I was taught in elementary school. Maybe it has evolved downward since then, Pavlicek now pegs the minimum at 7 points: http://www.rpbridge.net/5a00.htm
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Posted 2015-September-23, 17:33

View PostJinksy, on 2015-September-22, 14:16, said:

Really? Would you pass with x xxxx xxxx Axxx?


I'm astounded that this is even controversial. Would double with that in my sleep.
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