Partners support double shows 3 spades without promising extras. With a very weak opening p might have passed.
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#1
Posted 2015-October-17, 03:23
Partners support double shows 3 spades without promising extras. With a very weak opening p might have passed.
#5
Posted 2015-October-17, 10:38
This hand might play anywhere from 3n to 7c though leaving this hand is 3n appears to be wrong far too often.
Openers hand will probably fall somewhere btn these 2 extremes:
Qxx KJxx Axx Axx (3n)
Qxx xxx Ax AKxxx (7c)
Starting with 3h at least will make sure we avoid spending too much time looking for 7c if opener can bid 3n so it is an important first step.
#6
Posted 2015-October-17, 10:48
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#7
Posted 2015-October-18, 08:27
#8
Posted 2015-October-18, 09:39
I would have responded 1♦, not 1♠, intending to bid out my shape. In partnerships that allow an inverted raise with 5+ card support and side 4-card suits I would prefer 2♣.
#11
Posted 2015-October-18, 11:11
scarletv, on 2015-October-18, 10:52, said:
Yup. 4♣ probably followed by 4♠
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#12
Posted 2015-October-18, 13:53
If you treat the double as the equivalent of raising spades, then your whole system - help-suit, short-suit, whatever they may be - can be played as 'on'. Thus, 3♣/♦/♥ would all be forcing. I would pick 3♣ followed by 4♣, to make sure partner knows I only have four spades in a strong hand.
I wouldn't call 3♦ or 3♥ wrong either. As with most problems of this type, 'eye of the beholder' applies.
#14
Posted 2015-October-18, 16:24
dave_beer, on 2015-October-18, 16:06, said:
I'd assume new suit = forcing without discussion to the contrary, and if I was going to sign off in a partscore on this auction then 2♠ would be my choice - or maybe 3♣ in a case where I have support like this.
#16
Posted 2015-October-18, 16:50
#17
Posted 2015-October-18, 22:09
jodepp, on 2015-October-18, 13:53, said:
If you treat the double as the equivalent of raising spades, then your whole system - help-suit, short-suit, whatever they may be - can be played as 'on'. Thus, 3♣/♦/♥ would all be forcing. I would pick 3♣ followed by 4♣, to make sure partner knows I only have four spades in a strong hand.
I wouldn't call 3♦ or 3♥ wrong either. As with most problems of this type, 'eye of the beholder' applies.
On different auctions where I could have rebid 2 of either minor that would be rejecting the presumed 7-card fit and signing off in a safer partscore. Since the support double is unlimited partner could bid again but probably shouldn't return to the major.
I wouldn't want to bid either 3♣ or 3♦ on this auction without having discussed it first.
#18
Posted 2015-October-18, 23:26
dave_beer, on 2015-October-18, 22:09, said:
I feel that in polls like this you are assumed to have discussed your system.
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#19
Posted 2015-October-19, 07:58
1eyedjack, on 2015-October-18, 23:26, said:
LOL, if you had discussed your system that well, you wouldn't need a general poll. And if you had specific followup agreements, why didn't OP mention them?
Maybe you might have a specific question, e.g. should I force to game, should I invite, should I make a slam try, etc.
#20
Posted 2015-October-19, 09:15
johnu, on 2015-October-19, 07:58, said:
Maybe you might have a specific question, e.g. should I force to game, should I invite, should I make a slam try, etc.
I am not suggesting that the OP had discussed the system here. That may indeed be the reason why he has issued the poll. But he may expect responders who feel able to express an opinion to have done so, and may well be interested in guidance on what followups to agree with his partner for the future, based on those responses.
Or, it is just possible, although perhaps not so helpful, that the question is geared to what assumptions should be made in a pickup.
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scarletv says"partners support double shows 3 spades without promising extras. With a very weak opening p might have passed."
I rank ...
1. 3♣ = NAT.
2. 3♦ = NAT.
3. 4♣ = NAT
4. 3♥ = CUE.
5. 5♣ = NAT