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Lots of points in this deck

Poll: Lots of points in this deck (23 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call?

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 4C (7 votes [30.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.43%

  3. 4H (4 votes [17.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.39%

  4. 4S (12 votes [52.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.17%

  5. 4NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 5S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 6S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2016-March-08, 08:06



MPs scoring, opps playing basic acol (weak NT, 4cM). 3H is old-fashioned invitational. What's your call here?
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Posted 2016-March-08, 08:26

Partner can make 4S with a yarborough void in hearts. S xxxxxx H - D xxxx C xxx. More likely, we play partner for a singleton heart and a trick somewhere.
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Posted 2016-March-08, 11:01

4 clubs. it's not hard to imagine a slam and we'll make it easier if opps return to the party.

of course i would have doubled a heart though
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Posted 2016-March-08, 11:19

Partner ought to have lots of . You can't know if 4 is a make or not. If partner has something like a stiff and A, 4 ought to make. From the look of your hand, your probably not taking many tricks. 4 looks like it may make unless you can take 3 tricks or partner can come up with a second trick. So if 4 doesn't make, it's best to make them guess what to do immediately and potentially drive them to an unmakeable 5 .
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Posted 2016-March-08, 12:08

In order for this auction to make sense, at least 1 opponent has good long diamonds (or 1 good and the other long) to go with a large heart fit and partner is short(ish) in both of them. They can't have enough strength with the big heart fit and long bad clubs on the side.

That said, easts Pass over 3 and west apparently willing to play at the 3 level are at least curious.

I'll try something like a 4 cue to try and talk them out of a 5 bid which is where the battle line rates to be drawn.
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Posted 2016-March-08, 12:42

View Postggwhiz, on 2016-March-08, 12:08, said:

In order for this auction to make sense, at least 1 opponent has good long diamonds (or 1 good and the other long) to go with a large heart fit and partner is short(ish) in both of them. They can't have enough strength with the big heart fit and long bad clubs on the side.

That said, easts Pass over 3 and west apparently willing to play at the 3 level are at least curious.

I'll try something like a 4 cue to try and talk them out of a 5 bid which is where the battle line rates to be drawn.


Back on planet Earth, you could start by asking if Wests raise is pre-emptive or 'mixed'.
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Posted 2016-March-08, 14:01

think the original pass is borderline insane, and the comments that we may or may not make 4s are totally crazy - If 4c is a cue for spades then it seems like a very obvious choice.
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Posted 2016-March-08, 14:21

View Postwanoff, on 2016-March-08, 12:42, said:

Back on planet Earth, you could start by asking if Wests raise is pre-emptive or 'mixed'.


Read the OP, it's "old fashioned invitational"
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Posted 2016-March-11, 14:36

Those who mentioned slam must've missed the "invitational" description for LHO's bid. There's only way partner's got AJxxxx, -, Axxxx, xx is if our opps have forgotten their agreements. I prefer not to assume that.

4S on the other hand, should be great. I'm not worried about the opponents bidding on to 5H. RHO had a chance to act over 3S and didn't. LHO was content to play in 3H originally, so he'll pass over 4S. Unless there was a really long pause after 3S, but I know how to handle that situation.
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Posted 2016-March-11, 22:23

View Postgreiman, on 2016-March-11, 14:36, said:

Those who mentioned slam must've missed the "invitational" description for LHO's bid. There's only way partner's got AJxxxx, -, Axxxx, xx is if our opps have forgotten their agreements. I prefer not to assume that.

4S on the other hand, should be great. I'm not worried about the opponents bidding on to 5H. RHO had a chance to act over 3S and didn't. LHO was content to play in 3H originally, so he'll pass over 4S. Unless there was a really long pause after 3S, but I know how to handle that situation.


of course you're wrong in every way. opps routinely come back to life for tactical reasons, and, shock horror, they don't always have as many points as they're claiming in the bidding.

4s would just be a lazy bid. 4C has zero downside and is descriptive - partner isn't going to take you for any more than this considering you passed 1 heart.
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Posted 2016-March-12, 01:15

As south failed to double 1H,bidding 4C now may put north in a dilemma.
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Posted 2016-March-12, 08:18

I would have doubled 1H.

Given I didn't, I would rather make an unambiguous slam try with 4H.
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