Alerting Walsh bids ACBL
#1
Posted 2017-July-26, 09:04
1♦?
What if diamond bidder has less than 4 cards in diamond suit?
1 Major?
After 1♦ bid does 1NT [ may have a 4 card Major] need to be alerted?
Thank you
#2
Posted 2017-July-26, 15:46
dickiegera, on 2017-July-26, 09:04, said:
1♦?
What if diamond bidder has less than 4 cards in diamond suit?
1 Major?
After 1♦ bid does 1NT [ may have a 4 card Major] need to be alerted?
Thank you
Playing Walsh, you bypass 1♦ to bid your major when you're weak. This does not require an alert, even if you're bypassing a six card diamond suit. If you bid diamonds naturally (and a three card diamond suit is "natural") then no alert is required. A natural 1NT rebid does not require an alert, even if it bypasses a four card major.
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#3
Posted 2017-July-28, 00:01
I suppose if we were a regular partnership and we have sufficient experience with this kind of bid the 1♦ bid should be alerted. But I was just as surprised as everyone else when he put down the dummy with only 2 diamonds.
#4
Posted 2017-July-28, 09:14
barmar, on 2017-July-28, 00:01, said:
Back in my midnight days standard Directing equipment was 2 bottles of wine.
Was there a Director call for failure to alert?
What is baby oil made of?
#5
Posted 2017-July-28, 22:01
ggwhiz, on 2017-July-28, 09:14, said:
Was there a Director call for failure to alert?
Of course not.
The opponents were playing an incredibly weird system: no artificial bids at all. It's probably not ACBL legal, since there's no specified range for 1NT, you bid it if you think you can take 7 tricks.
#6
Posted 2017-July-29, 09:21
barmar, on 2017-July-28, 22:01, said:
The opponents were playing an incredibly weird system: no artificial bids at all. It's probably not ACBL legal, since there's no specified range for 1NT, you bid it if you think you can take 7 tricks.
Sure, but also you think you can do that before the opponents take seven tricks. Note also that however many tricks you think you can take, an unbalanced hand cannot bid a natural 1NT.
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#7
Posted 2017-July-30, 11:58
barmar, on 2017-July-28, 00:01, said:
Even not playing Walsh you could get stuck with 3=3=2=5.
In standard there is no forcing raise for clubs so what are you supposed to do with 20+ hcp?
#8
Posted 2017-August-09, 10:04
steve2005, on 2017-July-30, 11:58, said:
In standard there is no forcing raise for clubs so what are you supposed to do with 20+ hcp?
I'd check my horoscope and then choose among 5C, 6C, 3NT, or 6NT. Alternately, I might jump shift in a major and hope partner doesn't have four cards in it so I can show the clubs on my next turn.
#10
Posted 2017-August-18, 08:33