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Coronavirus Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it

#1541 User is offline   y66 

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Posted 2021-November-15, 11:14

View Postcherdano, on 2021-November-14, 17:25, said:

Uhm.

Note that Bob Wachter also felt the need to clarify his quotes - https://twitter.com/...198230994980870

The timing of this article is particularly Leonhardtish. With its slow booster uptake, the next US wave is certainly coming. If you live in the US and want covid to be over, the best thing to do is to stop reading Leonhardt and instead urge all your friends and relatives who are eligible to get a booster. Anyone over 65, anyone with health conditions (quite broad), anyone working in a "high risk" (healthcare, schools) setting is eligible if they've been fully vaccinated for 6 months.

Leonhardt starts off his Nov 12 newsletter with

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Among the Covid experts I regularly talk with, Dr. Robert Wachter is one of the more cautious. He worries about “long Covid,” and he believes that many people should receive booster shots.

As you point out, that's not exactly a forceful case for getting boosters when, as Wachter pointed out yesterday:

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If vax used to prevent 95% of infectns, then wanes, but protection can be restored via safe/cheap boost (not only prevents cases/Long Covid–it also keeps community safer), why NOT do that?

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The new data from England today shows a booster (3rd) shot increased vaccine effectiveness from 44% to 93% for Astra Zeneca and from 62.5 to 94% for Pfizer, vs symptomatic infection, age 50+

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Posted 2021-November-15, 17:14

View Postcherdano, on 2021-November-14, 17:25, said:

If you live in the US and want covid to be over, the best thing to do is to stop reading Leonhardt and instead urge all your friends and relatives who are eligible to get a booster. Anyone over 65, anyone with health conditions (quite broad), anyone working in a "high risk" (healthcare, schools) setting is eligible if they've been fully vaccinated for 6 months.

View Posty66, on 2021-November-15, 11:14, said:

and as Eric Topol points out today:

The last information I saw was recommending a booster for anyone in the right categories over 40.
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Posted 2021-November-26, 19:43

Noah Smith interviewing Eric Topol re: omicron variant: https://www.youtube....h?v=kXJuZCX5Mtk

More at https://twitter.com/EricTopol
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Posted 2021-November-26, 20:06

View Posty66, on 2021-November-26, 19:43, said:

Noah Smith interviewing Eric Topol re: omicron variant: https://www.youtube....h?v=kXJuZCX5Mtk

More at https://twitter.com/EricTopol

What happened to Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, and Xi? Same as preparations A through G?

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Posted 2021-November-26, 22:22

Today, the President of the United States and the Prime Ministers of the UK and Australia announced a new swimming pool policy.
From Monday at midnight EST, only Federated Australian UK & US alliance members will be permitted to swim in the North section of the pool.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison said:

To protect our citizens from unplanned discharges, only alliance members are permitted to swim in our part of the pool.

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Posted Yesterday, 03:54

View Postpilowsky, on 2021-November-26, 22:22, said:

Today, the President of the United States and the Prime Ministers of the UK and Australia announced a new swimming pool policy.
From Monday at midnight EST, only Federated Australian UK & US alliance members will be permitted to swim in the North section of the pool.




Sounded more like they wanted the top half of the pool and southern Africa could have the bottom half.
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Posted Yesterday, 18:54

View PostGilithin, on 2021-November-15, 17:14, said:

The last information I saw was recommending a booster for anyone in the right categories over 40.

The CDC recommends that everyone over 50 should get a booster, and everyone over 18 may get a booster. To which I Eric Topol and Michael Osterholm reply:

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"By not strongly urging all fully vaccinated adults to get a 3rd shot, the @CDCgov has failed its responsibility to protect the public, missing a strategy that would limit the surge in cases,"

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Posted Today, 08:22

I have been absorbing the idea of Omicron over the last two days. Friday we went to the store and bought some toilet paper, it was restricted in the amount you could buy. Good. We wanted to be sure we had some, we were not planning on buying out the store. Friday evening I called some family, some had heard the news already, some hadn't. And then I just took some time to absorb the news and talk with Becky about it.


We had never stopped wearing masks while shopping even if those taking the credit card at the cash register were unmasked. We once again were becoming more social, we will probably retreat some from that.

Of course a month from now we might look back and say "That was nothing, what were we worried about?", but I very much doubt that will be the case.

Kids need playmates. I think they need playmates more than they need to learn the capital cities of states. I suppose the three Rs are always important. I hope we can do a good job with this. Priorities will be important.
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Posted Today, 13:52

Delta variant doesn’t sound frightening - but The Omicron sounds like the title of a Stephen King novel.

Take the shot or the Omicron will come for you.
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Posted Today, 15:33

View PostWinstonm, on 2021-November-28, 13:52, said:

Delta variant doesn't sound frightening - but The Omicron sounds like the title of a Stephen King novel.

Take the shot or the Omicron will come for you.


Wait until we get to Omega.
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Posted Today, 18:00

View Postpilowsky, on 2021-November-28, 15:33, said:

Wait until we get to Omega.


That would be a remake - we've already had The Omega Man with Charleston Heston.

Beside, with Omicron you could have a kid sleepwalking carrying a large knife while croaking Nor Cimo, Nor Cimo, Nor Cimo, which sounds spookier than Age Mo, Age Mo, Age Mo.
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Posted Today, 19:19

View Postpilowsky, on 2021-November-28, 15:33, said:

Wait until we get to Omega.

I got my answer today about Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, and Xi. The WHO said they skipped Nu because it sounds like New and Xi because it's a common name in China. I'm not making this up; I read it on the internet so it must be absolutely true. But I'm still puzzled about Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda and Mu. Where'd they go?

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Posted Today, 19:49

View PostChas_P, on 2021-November-28, 19:19, said:

I got my answer today about Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, and Xi. The WHO said they skipped Nu because it sounds like New and Xi because it's a common name in China. I'm not making this up; I read it on the internet so it must be true. But I'm still puzzled about Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda and Mu. Where'd they go?


I just assumed that the intermediates exist but are not troublesome. Probably the same applies with beta and gamma before delta. As to alpha, it might be the original.

Just before hearing about omicron, less than a full day, I had heard about a nu variant. Given what you say above, I am guessing that it was first declared to be nu but then got renamed as omicron/

This is all guesswork. Maybe they are going by the first letter of the fraternity/sorority of the person who identifies it.
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Posted Today, 20:01

View Postkenberg, on 2021-November-28, 19:49, said:

Maybe they are going by the first letter of the fraternity/sorority of the person who identifies it.

You may be onto something.

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