[pescetom]

MP

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We bid to 6♦ in an uncontested auction here. But at another table East opened 2♦ and NS ended up in 4♣+2.
Not sure our defence against multi would have done much better, probably leading to 3NT+.
How would your partnership bid as NS, given the multi opening?

[Cyberyeti]

2♦-X (13-15 bal ish or BIG)-2♥(P/C)-P-2♠-3♣(big hand)-P now not sure what N should do, he is too good for 3N, maybe 3♦ which works well and leads to 6♦, maybe 4N (nat) which leads to 6♣.

[mw64ahw]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-June-09, 11:22, said:

2♦-X (13-15 bal ish or BIG)-2♥(P/C)-P-2♠-3♣(big hand)-P now not sure what N should do, he is too good for 3N, maybe 3♦ which works well and leads to 6♦, maybe 4N (nat) which leads to 6♣.

Slightly different from a 2♥ Ekren style

X-13-15 (semi)balanced or 19+
2♥-3 suited takeout
2♠-minors
2NT-16-18 (semi)balanced
3m-natural
3NT-Str minors

In this case start off with X or 3NT

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2021-June-09, 13:00, said:

Slightly different from a 2♥ Ekren style

X-13-15 (semi)balanced or 19+
2♥-3 suited takeout
2♠-minors
2NT-16-18 (semi)balanced
3m-natural
3NT-Str minors

We play 2♥ and 2♠ nat over a multi

[LBengtsson]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-June-09, 11:22, said:

2♦-X (13-15 bal ish or BIG)-2♥(P/C)-P-2♠-3♣(big hand)-P now not sure what N should do, he is too good for 3N, maybe 3♦ which works well and leads to 6♦, maybe 4N (nat) which leads to 6♣.

2♦ - X (13-15 or BIG) - 3♥ pass or correct...however I still think that north/south can end in minor suit slam, more chance 6♣ as cyberyeti say

[pescetom]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-June-09, 13:04, said:

We play 2♥ and 2♠ nat over a multi

We play in S as if we knew E has a weak 2♠, which often works well but has the downside that S loses the chance to bid a natural 2♠. Not a lot of help here, however.

[pescetom]

LBengtsson, on 2021-June-09, 13:13, said:

2♦ - X (13-15 or BIG) - 3♥ pass or correct...however I still think that north/south can end in minor suit slam, more chance 6♣ as cyberyeti say

I hope they can end there too.
But I'm curious to see the actual bidding sequence and know what it means.

[mw64ahw]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-June-09, 13:04, said:

We play 2♥ and 2♠ nat over a multi

I interpreted this as both Majors, but over a single-suited Major

X-opening bid in a Major
--19-21 balanced
--19+ 3-suited
2♥15-18 balanced
2♠-♣ transfer
2NT-♦ transfer
3♣-natural preempt
3♦-natural preempt
3♥/3♠ Major/Minor 5-5 8+ playing tricks (possibly 5-4)
3NT-22+ balanced

[Cyberyeti]

mw64ahw, on 2021-June-09, 13:35, said:

I interpreted this as both Majors, but over a single-suited Major

X-opening bid in a Major
--19-21 balanced
--19+ 3-suited
2♥15-18 balanced
2♠-♣ transfer
2NT-♦ transfer
3♣-natural preempt
3♦-natural preempt
3♥/3♠ Major/Minor 5-5 8+ playing tricks (possibly 5-4)
3NT-22+ balanced

Most multis here are weak 2 in hearts or spades or strong balanced, some people include another strong option, elsewhere the weak only multi is more common

[Cyberyeti]

pescetom, on 2021-June-09, 13:20, said:

I hope they can end there too.
But I'm curious to see the actual bidding sequence and know what it means.

Well: (I miscounted N's points last time, I would actually have opened that)

2♦-X-2♥-2N(lebensohl, variety of good hands or bad with clubs)
P-4♣(nat too good to let you sign off in 3♣)-P-4N(nat ish shows one of the good hands thru leb, so basically an 11 count with no 5 card suit and almost certainly <3 clubs)
P-6♣

[pescetom]

Cyberyeti, on 2021-June-09, 14:23, said:

Most multis here are weak 2 in hearts or spades or strong balanced, some people include another strong option, elsewhere the weak only multi is more common

I should have specified this, sorry: weak 2 in hearts or spades, or strong 3-suit or strong diamonds (would that deter anyone from doubling?).

Cyberyeti, on 2021-June-09, 14:35, said:

I miscounted N's points last time, I would actually have opened that

So would I. But CHO passed and luckily RHO too.

[apollo1201]

mw64ahw, on 2021-June-09, 13:35, said:

X-opening bid in a Major
--19-21 balanced
--19+ 3-suited

Well, you play multi against multi😅😅

I guess here with partner I’d X (13-15 bal or 19+), and partner bids 3NT over LHO pass or correct bid.

Now, I can safely bid 4C, which probably doesn’t thrive partner and she might persist in NT. Oh well, 6C anyway now I know the HK and some D goodies are there? I could try 5D en route to 6C and here it would work. But I’d not dare it undiscussed (forcing or not).

[mw64ahw]

apollo1201, on 2021-June-09, 16:03, said:

Well, you play multi against multi😅😅

I guess here with partner I’d X (13-15 bal or 19+), and partner bids 3NT over LHO pass or correct bid.

Now, I can safely bid 4C, which probably doesn’t thrive partner and she might persist in NT. Oh well, 6C anyway now I know the HK and some D goodies are there? I could try 5D en route to 6C and here it would work. But I’d not dare it undiscussed (forcing or not).

Yep - its wicked
In this case transfer to ♣ and then bid 3♦