BBO Discussion Forums: Out of my depth - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Out of my depth Best strategy?

#1 User is offline   ali quarg 

  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 91
  • Joined: 2020-August-14
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2022-November-16, 11:01

Playing 2/1 MPs I was wondering what the best strategy is?

Corrected
Spoiler

0

#2 User is offline   helene_t 

  • The Abbess
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,199
  • Joined: 2004-April-22
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Copenhagen, Denmark
  • Interests:History, languages

Posted 2022-November-16, 11:08

This is close. If I pass, I will bid 4 after partner's reopening double. I am inclined to bid 4 straight away, though.

Edit: You show a hand with a diamond void, but the diagram in the spoiler has a heart void.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
0

#3 User is offline   LBengtsson 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 974
  • Joined: 2017-August-10
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2022-November-16, 11:40

The word "strategy" sort of gives the game away imo :) And then I looked at the spoiler.

I agree with helene_t that it is borderline between a pass and throwing caution overboard and bidding 4. No strategy involved. Either you bid and give partner the impression you have a stronger hand than shown, or you pass. I am for bidding 4 as a good partner will know that you might be a bit light and have been forced to bid here. It is unlikely that South will have the cards to X you, or feel his cards are badly placed under a 4 declarer, especially as his partner has little to help with his 4 pre-empt.
1

#4 User is offline   mw64ahw 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,210
  • Joined: 2021-February-13
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Interests:Bidding & play optimisation via simulation.

Posted 2022-November-16, 15:16

7 losers, support ,A and void in ops. suit makes me want to bid 4
1

#5 User is offline   helene_t 

  • The Abbess
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,199
  • Joined: 2004-April-22
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Copenhagen, Denmark
  • Interests:History, languages

Posted 2022-November-17, 03:46

With a void in opp's suit I think 4 is fairly clear. Partner may be hoping for a better hand, especially better trumps, but my hand is not that bad.
The world would be such a happy place, if only everyone played Acol :) --- TramTicket
1

#6 User is offline   P_Marlowe 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,252
  • Joined: 2005-March-18
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2022-November-17, 04:01

Hi,

you cannot pass.

So your options are either 4S or X.
At MP you need to do the right thing, the right thing being, whatever gets you a
plus score.

I would go with 4S.
At IMPs I would go for 4S.

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
0

#7 User is offline   ali quarg 

  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 91
  • Joined: 2020-August-14
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2022-November-17, 07:00

Next question and perhaps a harder decision?
8 playing tricks white vs red and you get a 5 bid

0

#8 User is offline   DavidKok 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,566
  • Joined: 2020-March-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Netherlands

Posted 2022-November-17, 07:14

A forcing pass seems appropriate. If you do not have that available I would double - I hate bidding 5 over 5 on (semi-)balanced hands, and those two heart losers look terrifying. Plus, those side aces and kings look fine on defence.
0

#9 User is offline   pescetom 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 7,911
  • Joined: 2014-February-18
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Italy

Posted 2022-November-17, 15:44

View PostDavidKok, on 2022-November-17, 07:14, said:

A forcing pass seems appropriate. If you do not have that available I would double - I hate bidding 5 over 5 on (semi-)balanced hands, and those two heart losers look terrifying. Plus, those side aces and kings look fine on defence.


On what basis would forcing pass apply here?
A 1 opener does not promise much and I would expect partner to bid 4 over 4 on a wide range of hands.
0

#10 User is offline   mikeh 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,036
  • Joined: 2005-June-15
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada
  • Interests:Bridge, golf, wine (red), cooking, reading eclectically but insatiably, travelling, making bad posts.

Posted 2022-November-17, 16:05

I understand why we can see both hands, but it makes giving an objective answer virtually impossible.

As for whether we have a FP available over 5H, that’s a matter of agreement. It’s not universal but it’s fairly common to play that when we’ve bid a vulnerable game, and the nv opps bid one more, we’re in a FP situation.

It’s important to accept that, regardless of your specific agreements, once in a while we end up doubling a cold contract…not here,obviously.

Of course, the 4S bid didn’t come with an assurance that we were making, but equally it’s rare that one would bid 4S as a red v white save, so I think it reasonable to agree that this is a FP situation, west has an easy pass in that case, and I think east should bid 5S. Can we reach slam? I don’t think so. East’s 5S shows a stiff or void heart but I think west has to be feeling very optimistic to bid again. Once more, seeing the hands makes it impossible to know (although that seems not to matter to some)
'one of the great markers of the advance of human kindness is the howls you will hear from the Men of God' Johann Hari
1

#11 User is offline   Douglas43 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 675
  • Joined: 2020-May-11
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Isle of Man
  • Interests:Walking, boring my wife with bridge stories

Posted 2022-November-23, 21:09

I'd settle for 5. Partner could be stretching, but a heart shortage is odds-on. So probably a heart loser and one other somewhere most of the time.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users