EDGAR has BBO ever acknowledge it.
#1
Posted 2023-February-13, 13:47
there has been anything on it trying to ferret out those who cheat....just curious?
#2
Posted 2023-February-13, 14:38
pigpenz, on 2023-February-13, 13:47, said:
there has been anything on it trying to ferret out those who cheat....just curious?
You were doing what?
#4
Posted 2023-February-13, 15:19
#5
Posted 2023-February-13, 15:35
#6
Posted 2023-February-13, 18:53
as most people who have been convicted by the ACBL for cheating, collusion, whatever
took place in ACBL BBO games.
you can check out the ACBL under discipline list, read the case files, most of the people
listed were doing this on BBO.
#7
Posted 2023-February-13, 19:18
#8
Posted 2023-February-14, 02:31
pigpenz, on 2023-February-13, 18:53, said:
as most people who have been convicted by the ACBL for cheating, collusion, whatever
took place in ACBL BBO games.
you can check out the ACBL under discipline list, read the case files, most of the people
listed were doing this on BBO.
As you say, the ACBL has been discipling people, perhaps using EDGAR or not, but definitely using data from tournaments run on BBO. But this doesn't mean that BBO has anything to do with EDGAR.
The authors of EDGAR would like NBOs and such bodies (which may include BBO) to adopt the product for their own use. I doubt this has happened yet.
#9
Posted 2023-February-14, 12:38
out there looking at their data looking for people who collude. I always thought maybe BBO
would make some sort of announcement about it they make announcements for everything else.
#10
Posted 2023-February-14, 16:14
pigpenz, on 2023-February-14, 12:38, said:
out there looking at their data looking for people who collude. I always thought maybe BBO
would make some sort of announcement about it they make announcements for everything else.
BBO has always made it clear that they look for cheating, they also make the myhands database public and several people have announced that they are using it to look for cheating, plus of course you or I can do so without informing or asking anybody. So I'm not sure what there is to announce here.
And the more my own hands are checked the better, as I see it: so long as I'm not going to be publicly shamed on the basis of faulty conclusions that is.
#11
Posted 2023-February-15, 09:43
pigpenz, on 2023-February-13, 18:53, said:
as most people who have been convicted by the ACBL for cheating, collusion, whatever
took place in ACBL BBO games.
you can check out the ACBL under discipline list, read the case files, most of the people
listed were doing this on BBO.
BBO is not doing Edgar. This is under the ACBL umbrella. BBO is only involved in the sense that all ACBL online games are run on BBO. Then Edgar takes the data from BBO, which can be gotten by others too, and then Edgar does its stuff, looking for signs of cheating using various filters.
So there is no reason for BBO to be talking about Edgar. Anyway, Edgar does not look at any of the games played on BBO that are not under the ACBL umbrella. Edgar does not look at BBO speedballs. It does not look at bot games, at non-ACBL daylongs, at challenges, at games played on casual tables, at private team games. I'm not even sure that Edgar would be looking at the ACBL daylong bot games.
#12
Posted 2023-February-15, 12:46
(Because its leads always seemed to hit partner with the best hand.)
#13
Posted 2023-February-15, 15:36
smerriman, on 2023-February-15, 12:46, said:
(Because its leads always seemed to hit partner with the best hand.)
Suggesting a useful method for testing one component of a fair-play detection system in Bridge.