now you can bid.
1 board, 5 different contracts
#1
Posted 2024-July-23, 21:48
now you can bid.
(still learning)
#2
Posted 2024-July-23, 22:46
If RHO doubles, Ill apologize
Btw, partner will know Im not bidding on strength a good raise bids 4C.
#3
Posted 2024-July-24, 00:35
your options are either Pass or 4S.
Introducing a new suit should show a spade fit, due to the pass in 2nd seat, and I am fully behind passing
this one in 2nd seat, no need to force me to pass.
If you have 3 spades and a club singleton, you would raise, now you have 1 spade / 1 club less, ...
raise as well, I think with IMP scoring this is easier, with MP scoring you just need to guess right.
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2024-July-24, 03:41
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4♠, everything else is worse.
#5
Posted 2024-July-24, 03:59
For me 3♠ says 12-17 6+ or a very strong 5-card suit.
Given the initial passed hand I would guess towards the top end of the range. As East is also a passed hand 4♠ might work, but I prefer 4♥ as an alternative place to play.
Also, I have a bid to open as East, so would get in there first.
#6
Posted 2024-July-24, 08:53
In the meantime, who opens East, please explain.
(still learning)
#7
Posted 2024-July-24, 15:25
Maybe I am East?
All a bit confusing.
#8
Posted 2024-July-24, 18:34
Without thinking: Pass
After thinking about why North didn't raise: Pass
#9
Posted 2024-July-24, 19:15
Tramticket, on 2024-July-24, 15:25, said:
Maybe I am East?
All a bit confusing.
You are East. Second seat
(still learning)
#10
Posted 2024-July-26, 08:39
Here's the full hand.
It was played in:
4♦E-1
6♥E-1
4♣S-1
3♠W=
3♦E+3
(still learning)
#13
Posted 2024-July-26, 09:22
Alternatively you have agreement where 4N/5♣ indicates enough for 5R with a slant towards ♦ which can then be upgraded to a small slam on West's strength.
I'm not quite sure how I would progress the auction after an East opening of 2♥ and a 3♣ overcall unless X asks for shape to find the slam as again 4♥ looks straightforward.
Would any Souths open 1♣ rather than 3♣?
#14
Posted 2024-July-26, 09:29
#15
Posted 2024-July-26, 09:55
#16
Posted 2024-July-26, 10:37
pescetom, on 2024-July-26, 09:29, said:
I lean towards 3♠ with the West hand. All three of X, 3♠ and 3NT are reasonable, but in general I think we need too much help for 3NT to be good with only a single positional club stopper, and with a double there's a chance I won't get to introduce spades later.
If you have the agreement that X-then-3NT is more flexible, rather than stronger, than a direct 3NT that can help here, but under the agreement above this would commit you to concealing the spades (X-then-correcting-3♥-to-3♠ shows ♠+♦ in this agreement), which I don't like. I really like bidding spades when I have them.
Under the common agreement that X-then-3♠ shows a hand too strong for a direct 3♠ it might well work - it's an overbid, but we gain if partner jumps in a red suit.
Lastly I am a fan of opening the East hand with 2♥, intending to treat it as a weak red 5-5. It's not a great option, but pass is also not great. There's a case for opening 2♦ instead, especially at MPs.
#17
Posted 2024-July-26, 10:39
shyams, on 2024-July-26, 08:59, said:
I had considered a double, but my partnership does not have a specialised follow-up structure after a dbl of 3X or higher preempt.
Suppose I double and partner bids 3♥. Is my hand good enough to raise? No, I cannot be sure partner has a 5-card suit. If I bid 3NT over partner's 3H, does it show 18 HCP or maybe 20+? I think East will expect 20+ HCPs for such a sequence.
Others may have better structures to counter the preempt, I don't. So I am quite comfortable to bid 3NT.
#19
Posted 2024-July-26, 11:10
the hand is way to strong for a simple 3S.
I have no idea, what I would choose X or 3NT, but either bid is better than 3S.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#20
Posted 2024-July-26, 11:33
David, is your 2♥ weak 5-5 red systematically?
And, please explain your rationale for opening 2♦.
(still learning)