BBO Discussion Forums: Bidding at the margins - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Bidding at the margins Does weak vs strong NT make a difference?

#21 User is online   mike777 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,072
  • Joined: 2003-October-07
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2025-February-20, 14:16

so
1d-1h
1nt-2d
?

1nt is 15-17?
2d is XYZ, artificial and gf if permitted

expect to end up in 3nt or 4h
0

#22 User is offline   pescetom 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 8,260
  • Joined: 2014-February-18
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Italy

Posted 2025-February-20, 16:06

View Postpescetom, on 2025-February-20, 07:12, said:

Over 3♥ I bid 4♣ looking for spades control.



View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-February-20, 07:58, said:

East has a ♠ control



View Postjillybean, on 2025-February-20, 08:05, said:

Did he bypass a diamond control or are we assuming diamond control from the opening?


Neither, using Italian style indifferentiated control-bids.
He bids 4♦ which shows control of spades and says nothing about control of diamonds.
Now I bid 4♥ which denies control of diamonds.
0

#23 User is online   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 10,653
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2025-February-20, 19:06

View Postpescetom, on 2025-February-20, 16:06, said:

Neither, using Italian style indifferentiated control-bids.
He bids 4♦ which shows control of spades and says nothing about control of diamonds.
Now I bid 4♥ which denies control of diamonds.

:blink:
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
“Let me put it in words you might understand,” he said. “Mr. Trump, f–k off!” Anders Vistisen
0

#24 User is offline   smerriman 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,252
  • Joined: 2014-March-15
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2025-February-20, 19:55

View Postjillybean, on 2025-February-20, 19:06, said:

:blink:

Well, it seems logical enough, and just the same as last train. Skipping 3♠ to bid 4♣ is screaming at partner about a spade control, so partner needs a way to show it, ideally below game. If they do show it and you still sign off, it must mean you were looking for something else as well.
A better handviewer
Reverse engineering GIB, part 1: A treatise on the insanity of bidding simulations
0

#25 User is offline   mycroft 

  • Secretary Bird
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 7,684
  • Joined: 2003-July-12
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Calgary, D18; Chapala, D16

Posted 2025-February-20, 21:18

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-February-20, 09:46, said:

Does the 3♠ bid say anything about shape or honour concentration?
No, just 4-5 majors and GF.

Quote

If not opener will raise to 4♥.
We have two diamond losers. Pass.
When I go to sea, don't fear for me, Fear For The Storm -- Birdie and the Swansong (tSCoSI)
0
  • 2 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

9 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 9 guests, 0 anonymous users