[cronopio14]

Hello, playing in the Weekly Free Instant Tournament, date on December 19, board 6.
Based on same auctions 1♥- P - 1NT - P - 2♥ - P - 3♥ - P - 4♥ ALL PASS
Why would the bot choose a different lead holding ♠ Q95 - ♥ AK72 - ♦ Q73 - ♣ 953
Except for one out of all the bot led the ♥ K, while at my table the lead was ♠ 5

TX

[lorserker]

Hi, the reason is the recent robot update.
At your table the new version played, and at the other tables the old version played.

[cronopio14]

lorserker, on 2025-December-20, 04:07, said:

Hi, the reason is the recent robot update.
At your table the new version played, and at the other tables the old version played.

Since the tourney started yesterday for everyone, seems to be impossible to differ for that reason.
Tx anyway

[johnu]

cronopio14, on 2025-December-20, 05:32, said:

Since the tourney started yesterday for everyone, seems to be impossible to differ for that reason.
Tx anyway

Actually lorserker works for BBO and is their robot guru.

The actual tournament hands were played possibly weeks or months ago against robots that were online at that time. Your scores are compared against tournament scores when that tournament was played in the past. Everybody who plays that particular old tournament today will be playing against the new robots.

[cronopio14]

johnu, on 2025-December-20, 06:19, said:

Actually lorserker works for BBO and is their robot guru.

The actual tournament hands were played possibly weeks or months ago against robots that were online at that time. Your scores are compared against tournament scores when that tournament was played in the past. Everybody who plays that particular old tournament today will be playing against the new robots.

I understand, but the tourney isn't old, is a weekly tourney starting every Friday, the one Im talking about was started on fFriday 19th of December, yesterday so either everybody should be playing with same robots or maybe bots can choose different opening leads on same auctions based on opponents profiles?
I have a few students asking me about the same subject few weeks ago and told them it would be impossible... now I just wonder
tx

[johnu]

cronopio14, on 2025-December-20, 06:56, said:

I understand, but the tourney isn't old, is a weekly tourney starting every Friday, the one Im talking about was started on fFriday 19th of December, yesterday so either everybody should be playing with same robots or maybe bots can choose different opening leads on same auctions based on opponents profiles?
I have a few students asking me about the same subject few weeks ago and told them it would be impossible... now I just wonder
tx

Again, your score isn't compared to players who are currently playing that tournament. Your score, and other scores from players playing right now, is compared to players who played those same boards several weeks to several months ago. Yes, BBO is reusing tournaments from the past. How do you think you can get instant scoring if you were say, the first or second person to play the tournament? Obviously you can't. But you can compare to players who played that tournament weeks or months ago.

[diana_eva]

Like others explained here, Instant tournaments are games created based on older deals played with robots, which you have not played before. When you start an Instant tournament, you play the deals now, with the latest GIB version. However, the 14 tables you see in the Other Tables tab are all from past tourneys, older hands, which may have been played with an older version of GIB. So your robots and "their" robots are not identical.

You can read more about this specific game format in the help file for Instant tournaments: https://news.bridgeb...nt-tournaments/

The robot upgrade announcement also has a section at the end specifically to warn about this side effect on Instants: https://news.bridgeb...roducing-gibbo/

[cronopio14]

diana_eva, on 2025-December-21, 09:32, said:

Like others explained here, Instant tournaments are games created based on older deals played with robots, which you have not played before. When you start an Instant tournament, you play the deals now, with the latest GIB version. However, the 14 tables you see in the Other Tables tab are all from past tourneys, older hands, which may have been played with an older version of GIB. So your robots and "their" robots are not identical.

You can read more about this specific game format in the help file for Instant tournaments: https://news.bridgeb...nt-tournaments/

The robot upgrade announcement also has a section at the end specifically to warn about this side effect on Instants: https://news.bridgeb...roducing-gibbo/

Thanks Diana, and Johnu I will not take it personal "The bot lead" then

[squeezergb]

diana_eva, on 2025-December-21, 09:32, said:

Like others explained here, Instant tournaments are games created based on older deals played with robots, which you have not played before. When you start an Instant tournament, you play the deals now, with the latest GIB version. However, the 14 tables you see in the Other Tables tab are all from past tourneys, older hands, which may have been played with an older version of GIB. So your robots and "their" robots are not identical.

You can read more about this specific game format in the help file for Instant tournaments: https://news.bridgeb...nt-tournaments/

The robot upgrade announcement also has a section at the end specifically to warn about this side effect on Instants: https://news.bridgeb...roducing-gibbo/

Hi Diana

Are you able to say how long it will before the events in Instant Tournaments and in particular the 'Weekly Free' contain hands which have been played by GIBBO (excellent choice of name, if I say so myself)? The 'Weekly Free' is particularly important for those of us who stream our attempts at playing it on YouTube need to explain while we did better or worse on the change of robots.