[mycroft]

Caveat: this is partner's hand. I am *not* of the belief that "I was obviously right, what did she do wrong?"; I just don't find the decisions of the other hand that interesting. But note the first question; my mistake might have happened already!

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• What has partner shown?
  
• What's the plan?

[jillybean]

What are your systems ? Does 2♦ deny a 4cM, is 2♥ shape or stopper, if stopper why not 2n/2d?

[mycroft]

Those are all good questions.

I would assume that 2♦ denied a 4cM. Oh, and after 1♦-2♦, (only) 2NT or 3♦ are passable with just a LR. After that, you're on your own. Hence question 1 - what has partner shown?

[jillybean]

I don't like your system, your partner has diamonds, hearts and a hand that could play nt. gf but too good for an immediate 3nt opposite an unlimited hand.
If you can't bid a forcing 2n or 3♦ all roads lead to 3nt, 3♠ with control is terrible.
You need nebulous 2♣

[mike777]

 mycroft, on 2026-May-14, 17:29, said:

Caveat: this is partner's hand. I am *not* of the belief that "I was obviously right, what did she do wrong?"; I just don't find the decisions of the other hand that interesting. But note the first question; my mistake might have happened already!

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• What has partner shown?
  
• What's the plan?

Prefer to start with 2C, let's find out if partner is balanced or has real long D.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

standard was, that all bids below 3m dont show add. strength, i.e. 3NT would show a spade stop
and a non min opener.
I may be wrong, but there seems to be a tendency towards, that all bids except 3m (and 2NT)
now show non. min hands.
I would make a quant. move with 4NT.
As far as I see it, a diamond fit is not yet certain.

As always, the NT range matters, how light / low you go with your openings, I would assume, that
p accepts with 15/16.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mycroft]

I would argue that 2♣ may be a better first call as well. But this is what happened.

2♣ (for us, NAT GF) will

Spoiler

get you 2NT. Feel free to continue (but make clear what 2NT vs 3NT means to you).

P_Marlowe:

Spoiler

4NT gets you 6NT.

Note again: I am not looking to ATB here - first time partnership, although we have decades of experience playing against each other, so we had pretty good feel of each other's style. I won't explain the issue yet, because, well, that's what I'm trying to work out; but it's not ATB.

[mike777]

2C solves so many issues, seems clear.

If opener disagrees what a 2Nt rebid by them means, then you know what needs to be discussed.


For me over a 2NT rebid pick 3NT or 4NT

[P_Marlowe]

mycroft, on 2026-May-15, 13:31, said:

I would argue that 2♣ may be a better first call as well.
<snip>

Peoble really like auctions that start with

1D - 2C.

if I recall the posts correctly that are featuring this start.

I fail to see the adv. with the given hand, some may even play,
that a 2D response does not even promise a 5th diamond, may even
be based on a bal. hand with 3+.

[mycroft]

Sorry to be unclear. I want *you* to tell *me* what you're taking 2NT to mean when you continue the auction, so we can understand why you make your call.

Again, I'm not trying to fix our partnership for the future; the point isn't even "our partnership" at all.

[mike777]

2Nt rebid by opener shows a minimum balanced NT opener. A weak NT type hand.
Yes you may not have a spade stop, don't care.
2C does not promise a club stop, don't care.
1D does not promise a diamond stop.


Nothing complicated or tricky.

[mycroft]

Spoiler

Right, then for you, the auction will go 1♦-2♣; 3NT. But I bet a confusion here explains a couple of results.