[jillybean]

Hi,
I have stopped running tournaments. I had another unpleasant encounter this time with a private club manager and one of the members over my apparent sabotage of their pay tourney. The pay TD’s and even the free TD’s who schedule regular tournaments are hostile to me when I schedule a tournament they see as competing with theirs.
Its just not fun anymore.

Many thanks to everyone who has helped with laws and psyches and all sorts of odd questions and problems, I think I have learned a lot.

So now I’m looking for more partners.......

jb

[guggie]

Kathryn, this is a big loss for BBO

[sceptic]

sad, really Jilly, I doubt you are the first to quit for that reason and I doubt you will be the last, hope you change your mind eventually

[candybar]

Jilly, you have to do what seems right to you about directing, but as regards the incident with the pay directors, I think you are overreacting.

You are in the right, BBO admin has made that clear. I seem to recall uday saying that if they hassled you about such a thing, to just report them.

You are a good TD and have no reason to take them seriously. Whatever they said is their problem, not yours. If they can't attract players, it's certainly not because you can. Thicken up your skin a little, and if they bother you again, tell them to stick it, and then report the conversation to BBO.

I have been hassled by both pay and free directors about having a tournament near theirs, and I just tell them to take it up with BBO and don't bother me. Then I simply don't answer any more messages.

There's a lot of satisfaction in that approach

[jillybean]

Let me just say I do report these incidents to BBO and they have been faultless in their support of ‘free’ TD’s and I assume taking any action they see necessary.

And I dont want to get thick skin!

[Walddk]

I understand your reaction, and I would have done the same thing. I actually did, and so did Booze, long time ago when we decided to quit as tournament organisers. Not so much because of other directors and their opinions, but because we were fed up with bad behaviour among the players.

Kathryn, you have done great, and you have always been willing to learn. Very commendable! However, I understand that you've had it. Enough is enough when you're a volunteer and unpaid director.

Roland

[Gerardo]

Thank you very much Jilly, indeed a big loss

[Al_U_Card]

jillybean2, on Oct 21 2005, 01:12 PM, said:

Let me just say I do report these incidents to BBO and they have been faultless in their support of ‘free’ TD’s and I assume taking any action they see necessary.

And I dont want to get thick skin!

"The quality of mercy is not strained, it droppeth as the gentle rain from Heaven"

Reward the good and punish the bad so that the bullies never win. BBO will be the poorer for your decision, may you be the richer.....

[luke warm]

hi jilly kat... i don't like the fact that you were bullied, and i like even less the seeming fact that the bully(s) are getting away with it...

anyway, i hope you change your mind... if not, we'll play more often (that should be reason enough for you to change your mind )

[jw_nl]

Kathryn, forget the behaviour of some colleagues as soon as possible and enjoy your visit to Estoril.

Let's talk about the FUN you and many many players on BBO had in your tourneys in a month or so and maybe, I hope, .............

[epeeist]

jillybean2, on Oct 21 2005, 09:29 AM, said:

Hi,
I have stopped running tournaments. I had another unpleasant encounter this time with a private club manager and one of the members over my apparent sabotage of their pay tourney.  The pay TD’s and even the free TD’s who schedule regular tournaments are hostile to me when I schedule a tournament they see as competing with theirs.       
Its just not fun anymore.

Many thanks to everyone who has helped with laws and psyches and all sorts of odd questions and problems, I think I have learned a lot.

So now I’m looking for more partners.......

jb

Sorry to read this, I enjoyed your tournaments. I agree with the others in this thread.

Too bad it would be against the rules, but if it weren't, if someone falsely accused me of scheduling tournaments to sabotage their pay tournaments, that would annoy me enough to start sabotaging them by hosting free tournaments of exactly the same format a few minutes ahead of theirs on any and all occasions...

[candybar]

I like this idea. Message me privately with the TD or tourney name and I'll be sure to plan my tourneys immediately ahead of theirs.

Sure do hate to see them getting what they want, driving away the successful and capable free TDs.

[keylime]

I feel diminished as a BBO member to hear of this development. "Beaner", as I call her, is one of the truly great people of my life.

There aren't many folks in this world more kind, generous, and loving to humanity as K. I had the immense pleasure of staying in her home with her hubby Bill and daughter Jennifer for a few days due to a tourney in town in Vancouver (I was living on Vancouver Island at the time). Never once was I made to feel as if I was a burden or a bother - truly a magnificient time I had.

To hear of someone stating that K would sabotage an event is frankly conduct unbecoming of the accuser.

What a loss.

[Free]

Sad to hear that there will be even less free tournaments.

I remember the introduction of BBO dollars. Most of the administrators thought the $ wouldn't have much influence. Seems like some were wrong in the long run (at the beginning it was still ok). These days you can't get a decent free tourney anymore. I understand that people like to be payed for work, but imo the TD's of free tournaments should be protected. We now see that JB is being 'harmed' by people who do the same thing but need money for it. This is unacceptable! I don't know exactly what has been said or done, but I'll probably hear about it first time I say 'peep'. I'd just ignore them, but I can understand your decision. ♥

[helene_t]

A big loss for the BBO. Regretable yet understable that you made that decision.

I hope those TDs who bullied you will have their TD rights taken away.

[Chamaco]

Free, on Oct 22 2005, 09:01 AM, said:

Sad to hear that there will be even less free tournaments.

I remember the introduction of BBO dollars. Most of the administrators thought the $ wouldn't have much influence. Seems like some were wrong in the long run (at the beginning it was still ok). These days you can't get a decent free tourney anymore. I understand that people like to be payed for work, but imo the TD's of free tournaments should be protected. We now see that JB is being 'harmed' by people who do the same thing but need money for it. This is unacceptable! I don't know exactly what has been said or done, but I'll probably hear about it first time I say 'peep'. I'd just ignore them, but I can understand your decision. ♥

Ditto.
Ditto.
Ditto.

Oh, I forgot: Ditto all Free said.

[Rebound]

I'm saddened by this as well. I hope some day you change your mind. I will attempt to make more frequent use of the privilege of creating tournaments in the hope I can keep you posted here in the event of marked improvement.

Regrettably, I have really not had the time to host lately so it's been a while since I have run a tournament. However, that will soon change with any luck.

Thank you for your contribution to BBO.

[Mr. Dodgy]

I have thick skin, free tourneys will continue on BBO so long as I draw breath. Mind you, with my dear friend Kathryn calling it a day, the standard of Directing may suffer a serious degradation :-)

Thanks jilly, come play with me anytime.

[chicken]

did those TD get their TD-rights removed?
just 4 curiousity.....