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Banker's Hand Two Bidding a Swan

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Posted 2006-March-15, 04:36

Scoring: MP

P - (P) - ?


Your opening in 3rd?
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Posted 2006-March-15, 04:43

1D. Longest suit at the lowest level...

p.s. I always thought a swan was a 7411
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Posted 2006-March-15, 05:04

It comes to mind 1♦, followed by 4♥ (4NT if it comes back in 4♠).

You can try for max pressure with 4♦. It's matchpoints, after all.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 05:07

I have 2 options: 1♥ and 5♦. I ll go with the second one since I am in third.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 05:09

1♥, but I also like 5♦
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Posted 2006-March-15, 05:16

1♦.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 06:13

1♦, I am willing to rebid 4♥ so I don't see the need to distort with 1♥. A 5♦ opening has some attraction.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 06:27

No the 7-4-1-1 is an eau de cologne hand, or only if it's 4♠ 7♥?
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  Posted 2006-March-15, 06:34

Fairly sure a swan is a 7411.

Anyhow I'm opening this 1♦.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 06:36

My terminology is shakey. I have also heard hands like these called Marilyns... i.e. shapely.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 08:30

5D, because of the spade void. I don't quarrel with 1D or 1H.

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Posted 2006-March-15, 09:56

Reese described a swan as a 4=1=1=7 because the way the hand diagram looked on paper:

KQxx
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x
AKJxxxx

Pretty sure this comes out "Play Bridge with Reese".

I think all 7-4-1-1's are collectively called swans now however.

I would open the subject hand 1♦, but one of my regular partners probably opens it 4♥ if the colors are right. Seriously.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 11:17

1♦. 5♦ is a distant 2nd choice. 1♥ is nowhere.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 12:07

5D

1D close second choice.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 12:53

mike777, on Mar 15 2006, 06:07 PM, said:

5D

1D close second choice.

Funny to see the difference between 1♦ and FIVE♦ is thin :)
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Posted 2006-March-15, 15:20

giraffe?

1♦
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Posted 2006-March-15, 17:44

1♦. If bidding comes back at 4♠, I'm willing to try a 4N
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Posted 2006-March-15, 18:40

Is there a case for opening 2 or 3 diamonds and then bidding again??
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Posted 2006-March-15, 18:54

I think 2♦ must be better than 3♦ - you are hoping the opponents will come in so you can complete your description. I think this hand is too strong to bid it like that, make it KKQ and I'd consider it.
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Posted 2006-March-15, 19:33

Scoring: MP

P - P - 5♦ - 5♠
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I was playing MPs and felt it would be fun to roll the dice. I think 1♦ and willing to rebid 4NT is perfectly acceptable as well.

Unfortunately there was a sting in the tail. Partner lead an obvious ♦A and our declarer made 13 tricks. Most of the field was in 4♠+2, so we ended up with a below average score anyway. All I could do was shrug.
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