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Your bid?
#2
Posted 2006-August-24, 17:02
Having decided to pass initially, I see no real reason not to pass again... Yes, I'm short in Spades, but the opponents have had lots of chances to exchange information. If I bid 3♦, they'll know what to do.
If I had raised initially, they'd be under pressure, however bidding now just puts partner's neck out on the block.
If I had raised initially, they'd be under pressure, however bidding now just puts partner's neck out on the block.
Alderaan delenda est
#3
Posted 2006-August-24, 19:29
I am confused as to why this is in the BBO Tournament Directors forum. Are you trying to figure out what the "normal bid" was because EAST went into a tank over 2♠ before he passed. IF my partner tanked here, I would pass. Assuming he passed in tempo, here I will raise to 3♦.
--Ben--
#4
Posted 2006-August-24, 19:58
3D, which is what I would have bid on my second turn - why wait? I wouldn't fault a partner for passing - as Richard says - 3D now invites a matchpoints double. Double is nuts - you have good diamond support.
I would pass if vulnerable.
Peter
I would pass if vulnerable.
Peter
#5
Posted 2006-August-24, 23:17
I cannot see pass as a reasonable alternative.
A stretch, but there is at least some logic to a double. If partner bids 3H or 3C, this will likely be a superior contract. The risk is P-P-P. I might take that risk given a fearful partner as to defense or a need for a swing or great close.
A stretch, but there is at least some logic to a double. If partner bids 3H or 3C, this will likely be a superior contract. The risk is P-P-P. I might take that risk given a fearful partner as to defense or a need for a swing or great close.
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-P.J. Painter.
-P.J. Painter.
#6
Posted 2006-August-25, 02:52
I certainly wouldn't double, because it's penalties.
I assume this is in this forum because partner's pass was slow.
If I had no way of distinguishing a sound raise from a weak raise last round, I bid 3D now with no logical alternative.
Personally, I would bid 3D now anyway if there was no UI.
I assume this is in this forum because partner's pass was slow.
If I had no way of distinguishing a sound raise from a weak raise last round, I bid 3D now with no logical alternative.
Personally, I would bid 3D now anyway if there was no UI.
#7
Posted 2006-August-25, 03:25
After seriously considering to pass, if decided to go for 3♦ mainly because we are non vul.
#8
Posted 2006-August-25, 03:39
Pass, since I passed the round before.
To a certain degree, it is a question
which partnership agreements are in
place?
If a direct raise would have been inv.,
passing first intending to raise later may
be the only way to show this kind of hand
=> Than raise.
I would have raised at the first opportunity.
With kind regards
Marlowe
To a certain degree, it is a question
which partnership agreements are in
place?
If a direct raise would have been inv.,
passing first intending to raise later may
be the only way to show this kind of hand
=> Than raise.
I would have raised at the first opportunity.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#9
Posted 2006-August-25, 11:32
I pass initially but bid 3♦ now. Selling out to 2♠ with these cards doesn't look like winning MP to me.
#10
Posted 2006-August-25, 11:39
BTW...
Here's an interesting question: What would 2NT show in this sequence?
I agree with Frances that a delayed double is for penalty. A case could be made that a delayed 2NT should be natural, showing a hand that isn't quite strong enough for a penalty double, but prefers to declare rather than defend, however, I'm having a great deal of trouble constructing hands that would be consistent with the earlier bidding. In short, the frequency of a natural 2NT balance seems small...
I think that it might be reasonable to define 2NT as a scrambing bid, showing Diamond tolerance, but also suggesting other places to play. If I were to bid, I'd probably bid 2N rather than 3♦. Partner's Diamonds will take tricks regardless of what is the trump suit. However, I'd prefer to be ruffing Spades with small clubs or hearts rather than the QJ of Diamonds.
Here's an interesting question: What would 2NT show in this sequence?
I agree with Frances that a delayed double is for penalty. A case could be made that a delayed 2NT should be natural, showing a hand that isn't quite strong enough for a penalty double, but prefers to declare rather than defend, however, I'm having a great deal of trouble constructing hands that would be consistent with the earlier bidding. In short, the frequency of a natural 2NT balance seems small...
I think that it might be reasonable to define 2NT as a scrambing bid, showing Diamond tolerance, but also suggesting other places to play. If I were to bid, I'd probably bid 2N rather than 3♦. Partner's Diamonds will take tricks regardless of what is the trump suit. However, I'd prefer to be ruffing Spades with small clubs or hearts rather than the QJ of Diamonds.
Alderaan delenda est
#11
Posted 2006-August-28, 06:05
71 % so far voted 3 Diamonds, but too many vote pass, so this is a logical alternative, even if it does not look as one for me....
Kind Regards
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
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P=(1S)=2D=P
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