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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2009-August-30, 08:21

Bermuda bowl, first match, after 2 flat boards you pick

KQ10xxxxx
10
xx
x

oppnents vulnerable

pass-(pass)-??

your go!
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Posted 2009-August-30, 08:33

lol
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Posted 2009-August-30, 08:35

I expected more action on this board ;)
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Posted 2009-August-30, 08:40

Sorry but in a real bridge contest nobody will do anything other than open 4S. It is only in the BBF fantasy land that anyone does something like opening 5S (or maybe in Australia somewhere). Things like that simply do not happen in a real bridge competition which most of the BBF fantasy land has never been a part of. In the real bridge world this is not a bidding problem.
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Posted 2009-August-30, 08:53

I don't mean 5, that is telegraphing to opponents, but 1/2NT or something like might have worked.
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Posted 2009-August-30, 09:11

At this level of competition, you won't be invited onto many (like none) teams with a cowboy-look-at-how-smart-I-am-wiz-bang-let-me-psyche-this-one-because-I-am-so-clever attitude.

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"Unilateral Action" was one of the Dallas Aces' 7 Deadly Sins.

Oh, Btw, I open 4S.
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Posted 2009-August-30, 09:13

Fluffy, on Aug 30 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Bermuda bowl, first match, after 2 flat boards you pick

KQ10xxxxx
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xx
x

oppnents vulnerable

pass-(pass)-??

your go!

The problem hand belongs to partner who doesn't know if you have this one or one with slightly more defense ;)
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Posted 2009-August-30, 18:08

Winstonm, on Aug 30 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

"Unilateral Action" was one of the Dallas Aces' 7 Deadly Sins.

From what I've seen, at least two Norths opened 4 and then bid 6 after it went 5-P-6.

If you are going to do that, maybe opening 5 instead isn't so silly after all.
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Posted 2009-August-30, 18:22

Agree with this. If you open 4S you pass thereafter.
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Posted 2009-August-30, 18:46

Fluffy, on Aug 30 2009, 09:21 AM, said:

Bermuda bowl, first match, after 2 flat boards you pick

KQ10xxxxx
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x

oppnents vulnerable

pass-(pass)-??

your go!

North has how many cards here ..I see 12..did he have 8 or 9?
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Posted 2009-August-30, 21:13

Throw in an onion of 2NT or 4H maybe.
I guess at the table I'd just do a normal 4S
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Posted 2009-August-31, 03:36

9 spades third psoition favourable.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 03:51

nigel_k, on Aug 31 2009, 12:08 AM, said:

Winstonm, on Aug 30 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

"Unilateral Action" was one of the Dallas Aces' 7 Deadly Sins.

From what I've seen, at least two Norths opened 4 and then bid 6 after it went 5-P-6.

If you are going to do that, maybe opening 5 instead isn't so silly after all.


Every lpayer o the 6 tableson vugraph opened 4. One of them was left playing 4 X

I think the auction 4-5-pass-6 and now 6 was at least repeated 3 times on the 6 tables.

The worst of all IMO was the guy who openend 4, and it went:

4-X-p-4NT
p-5-p-p
5-6-p-p
p

EW hands where

x
AJxx
A9xx
xxxx

A
Kxxx
KJ
AKQJxx

7 made on a squeeze, but 7 would fail misserably, anyway, some people didn't even try a forcing pass over 6. and where happy to collect their 800.



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8 x 6 made
6x 6 -800
1x 6NT made!, wich was worth 14 IMPs
2x 7 made
1x 7 -1100
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Posted 2009-August-31, 06:43

Opening 4S perfectly normal. When you are faced with defending 6 vulnerable clubs the only reason I can see for not taking a dive in 6S is the fear of 7C, which might well be no issue. If 7 does come about well then we may or may not face another problem. My bet is most days you play 6 doubled and that is the end of it. They already had a shot to bid 7. It is not so horrible for for the hand with 2 aces to cue bid 5S after a t/o dble or 5C call from partner, bidding 7 will not be a likely outcome.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 06:56

mcphee, on Aug 31 2009, 01:43 PM, said:

Opening 4S perfectly normal. When you are faced with defending 6 vulnerable clubs the only reason I can see for not taking a dive in 6S is the fear of 7C, which might well be no issue.

What about the possibility that your opponents, who have had to guess at a high level, are going down in 6? Going for 800 when you were about to get +100 costs 19 IMPs if teammates had their par of +500.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 07:39

gnasher, on Aug 31 2009, 07:56 AM, said:

mcphee, on Aug 31 2009, 01:43 PM, said:

Opening 4S perfectly normal. When you are faced with defending 6 vulnerable clubs the only reason I can see for not taking a dive in 6S is the fear of 7C, which might well be no issue.

What about he possibility that your opponents, who have had to guess at a high level, are going down in 6? Going for 800 when you were about to get +100 costs 19 IMPs if teammates had their par of +500.

I watched this at the USA1 v Australia match. I was struck by how strapped the potential sac-ers were because of the wide spread of possible 4 hands neither 6 defender could tell whether partner had enough defense to set it.
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Posted 2009-August-31, 07:54

Fluffy, on Aug 31 2009, 04:51 AM, said:


I find the official site less garish - much easier on the eye.


pooltuna, on Aug 31 2009, 08:39 AM, said:

I watched this at the USA1 v Australia match. I was struck by how strapped the potential sac-ers were because of the wide spread of possible 4 hands neither 6 defender could tell whether partner had enough defense to set it.

In that sort of match the underdog team might find it easier to save :"If these guys bid a slam it will probably make" as opposed to the favorite thinking "Who knows what these clowns have for their bidding!"
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Posted 2009-August-31, 11:28

Pretty sure the forum regulars would be collecting 300 here :ph34r:
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Posted 2009-August-31, 11:46

gnasher, on Aug 31 2009, 07:56 AM, said:

mcphee, on Aug 31 2009, 01:43 PM, said:

Opening 4S perfectly normal. When you are faced with defending 6 vulnerable clubs the only reason I can see for not taking a dive in 6S is the fear of 7C, which might well be no issue.

What about he possibility that your opponents, who have had to guess at a high level, are going down in 6? Going for 800 when you were about to get +100 costs 19 IMPs if teammates had their par of +500.

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