[mr1303]

Scoring: MP

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Partner opens 4D Namyats, opps are silent.

Your call? 4H will ask for some sort of feature, 4NT would be RKCB.

[aguahombre]

Partner shows 8 to 8 1/2 tricks. I will try to find the other 4. Why give them information?
6S.

[the hog]

Just a simple 6S for me.

[TylerE]

Not to mention that Namyats is actually rightsiding the contract for once...

[aguahombre]

TylerE, on Nov 26 2009, 06:10 PM, said:

Not to mention that Namyats is actually rightsiding the contract for once...

Namyats usually does rightside the contract, unless relaying through is a demand for Opener to bid it. That is a tool, but we rarely use it unless we intend to follow up with a CUE. Your point is an important biproduct of Namyats.

Why isn't "Not to mention..." followed by nothing?

[hanp]

4NT, I will bid 7NT if partner shows 3.

[jdonn]

hanp, on Nov 27 2009, 02:42 PM, said:

4NT, I will bid 7NT if partner shows 3.

Yes. Why would someone not check, does it deny an outside ace?

[mikeh]

Keycard is obvious, but not foolproof: AQJxxxxx x Ax xx won't get us to grand and most of us know how to pick off a singleton K offside, when holding a 12 card fit.

BTW, if we did get the magic answer of 3 keycards, bid 7♠, not 7N. There will be some hands on which the ability to ruff will be critical in providing extra chances.

Even tho it's mps, my view is that when bidding a grand that may be missed by a good part of the field (see how many just bid 6♠ here), choose the safest rather than the highest scoring.

[pooltuna]

[quote name='mr1303' date='Nov 26 2009, 07:40 PM']

Scoring: MP

♠	AKQxxxxx
♥	xx
♦	x
♣	xx

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or

Scoring: MP

♠	AKQxxxxx
♥	xx
♦	x
♣	xx

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or

Scoring: MP

♠	AKQxxxxx
♥	xx
♦	x
♣	xx

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will be problematic

[mikeh]

As an add-on, change the hand slightly: 108xx AKQJ QJx Ax.... we'd want to be in 7♠ opposite a diamond void, small opposite a stiff and below slam otherwise.

When I play Namyats, a bid beyond 4 of the major shows a hand with slam interest...'we have 12 tricks if we don't lose 2 quick ones' and is a cue of the lower of two touching Aces (leave the trump suit out..... we have an agreement that namyats always delivers the trump Ace).

So we would bid 5♥, showing the club and heart Aces, and asking, by inference, for a diamond control. Partner places the contract according to his diamond holding: he can bid 6♦ with the Ace, in case 7N is the best spot, and 7♠ with a void (so we don't 'correct' to 7N) and so on.

[jdonn]

pooltuna, on Nov 27 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

RKC it is. of course handling

♠	KQJxxxxx
♥	xx
♦	Ax
♣	x

 

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or

Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown

♠ AQJxxxxx ♥ xx ♦ Ax ♣ x

  will be problematic 

In what way does RKC not handle the first two of those?

[pooltuna]

jdonn, on Nov 27 2009, 04:39 PM, said:

pooltuna, on Nov 27 2009, 03:54 PM, said:

RKC it is. of course handling

<table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> KQJxxxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> xx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> Ax </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> 

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or <!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> ????? </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> ???? </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> Unknown </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </span> </th> <td> AQJxxxxx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> xx </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> Ax </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> x </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->  will be problematic 

In what way does RKC not handle the first two of those?

The initial reply is identical in all but only the bottom one makes 7 unless I looked at them cross-eyed when I made them

[jdonn]

Ah I think the point is you reach 6 opposite all of them, so the only 'problematic' one is the last one.

[wank]

i'd prefer to run the small risk missing 7 than wrong side it. how would you feel about partner's 5s response on AKQxxxxx Qx xx x with a diamond lead?

[skjaeran]

wank, on Dec 2 2009, 08:30 AM, said:

i'd prefer to run the small risk missing 7 than wrong side it. how would you feel about partner's 5s response on AKQxxxxx Qx xx x with a diamond lead?

Unlucky!